Teach Your Children Well
When I first heard the unrepentant 60-70's Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (Ayer's wife) were friends with Barack Obama, it wasn't the Obama connection that bothered me as much as the fact that William Ayers is now a Distinguished Professor Of Education at the University Of Illinois, Chicago, and Dohrn is one the American Bar Association’s governing elite, as well as the director of Northwestern University’s Children and Family Justice Center. Exactly how do you go from being a Marxist nihilist revolutionary bomber of the Pentagon, Capitol, and other government sites, attempt to murder american soldiers, aid and abet robbery and the murder of state troopers, praise the Manson family murderers, advocate for children to kill their parents, have a stated goal to destroy America…and then end up in charge of shaping the minds of our younger generation ??? Please tell me this is all some kind of joke. Please. I mean, what's next ? Too bad we killed Timothy McVeigh, or we could have made him the junior Senator from Oklahoma. Hell, let's free Charles Manson and have him do guest stints on the Dr. Phil show offering psychological advice. Welcome to your nightmare, 'Amerikkka' (that is how Ayers, Dohrn, and another Obama buddy, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, refer to our country. It's tres chic Leftspeak in Hyde Park, where Wright, Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn all live).
On September 11, 2001, the same day Islamic terrorists were crashing airliners into buildings and killing thousands of innocent U.S. citizens ('chickens coming home to roost' in Leftspeak), the New York Times ran an article about Ayers and Dohrn called "No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives." As David Horowitz reports for Frontpagemag, days after 9/11:
…I opened its pages [the New York Times] to be confronted by a color photo showing a middle-aged couple holding hands and affecting a defiant look at the camera…The couple pictured were Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, former leaders of the 1960s’ Weather Underground, America’s first terrorist cult. One of their bombing targets, as it happened, was the Pentagon.
"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it. Taking charge of the podium, dressed in a high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast." Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:
Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!
Embarrassed today by this memory, but unable to expunge it from the record and unwilling to repudiate her terrorist deeds, Dorhn resorts to the lie direct. "It was a joke," she told the sympathetic Times reporter, Dinitia Smith; she was actually protesting America’s crimes. "We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer." In 1980, I taped interviews with thirty members of the Weather Underground who were present at the Flint War Council, including most of its leadership. Not one of them thought Dohrn was anything but deadly serious. Outrageous nihilism was the Weatherman political style. As soon as her tribute to Manson was completed, Dohrn was followed to the Flint platform by another Weather leader who ranted, "We’re against everything that’s ‘good and decent’ in honky America. We will loot and burn and destroy. We are the incubation of your mothers’ nightmares."
Sweet, isn't it ? Near the end of the frontpagemag article, Horowitz talks a little about the 10 hours of interviews he did with Ayers:
I interviewed Ayers ten years ago, in a kindergarten classroom in uptown Manhattan where he was employed to shape the minds of inner city children [Gag]. Dressed in bib overalls with golden curls rolling below his ears, Ayers reviewed his activities as a terrorist for my tape recorder. When he was done, he broke into a broad, Jack Horner grin and summed up his experience: "Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country."
As you can see, Ayers is a puke stain. Ditto for Dohrn. These two spoiled rich white leftist dipsticks never had to pay much for their crimes (Ayers got off on a technicality and Dohrn served only 7 months for contempt), and today, they are still spoiled rich white leftist dipsticks, only now they are referred to as 'activists' in polite liberal society.
When Barack Obama ran for the Illinois Senate in 1995, he held a fundraiser at the home of Ayers and Dohrn. It was Obama's coming out party, his introduction into rich white leftist dipstick Chicago society circles. Obama fit right in, being a former Saul Alinsky-inspired community organizer and civil rights lawyer. Obama and Ayers became friendly, later serving on the Woods Fund together.
Obviously, Barack Obama isn't accountable for the terrorist crimes of Ayers and Dohrn. I'd be interested to know the extent of the relationship however, because Ayers politics haven't changed, and somehow he has acquired influence in liberal educational circles (that's a story for another day). Here's Sol Stern of City Journal:
He [Ayers] still boasts about working full-time to bring down American capitalism and imperialism. This time, however, he does it from his tenured perch as Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Instead of planting bombs in public buildings, Ayers now works to indoctrinate America’s future teachers in the revolutionary cause, urging them to pass on the lessons to their public school students.
Indeed, the education department at the University of Illinois is a hotbed for the radical education professoriate. As Ayers puts it in one of his course descriptions, prospective K–12 teachers need to “be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and . . . be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, a teacher teaching for social justice and liberation.” Ayers’s texts on the imperative of social-justice teaching are among the most popular works in the syllabi of the nation’s ed schools and teacher-training institutes. One of Ayers’s major themes is that the American public school system is nothing but a reflection of capitalist hegemony. Thus, the mission of all progressive teachers is to take back the classrooms and turn them into laboratories of revolutionary change.
I'd like to know Obama's opinion of Ayers teaching methods. Ayers is a radical, and he seems to have found a comfortable home in the university environment. That doesn't speak well of our universities. The above Ayers quote about social justice sounds like it could have been taken from an Obama speech. I'd like to hear this brought up in a debate (assuming the Timidity Of Hope agrees to any more debates after his last debacle). It's time America gets to know exactly what Barack Obama stands for. I don't think we should wait until he's already in the Oval Office to find out.
April 25th, 2008 at 6:14 am
Afte the fall of the USSR, it has been said that the only place where Marxism thrives is in our universities & colleges. This scumbag Ayers adds confirmation to that observation.
Say, what do you want to bet that Ayers votes Democratic, just like Islamic terrorists would do if they were allowed to participate in U.S. elections? [Say, maybe the Dims can get absentee ballots for those Islamofascists.]
B. Hussein Obama has a lot of explaining to do about his association with racists like Wright — who is now trying to rehabilitate himself — and domestic terrorists like Ayers.
It's no wonder Hamas looks favorable of BHO's candadicy. They know where BHO's heart is even if many of the his Kool-Aid drinking supporters here don't.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:24 am
It has been said that one of Islam's "infidel" give-aways is found in wiping one's Muslim derriere with one's left hand.
Obama is left handed.
Surely that would be close enough for you to accuse him of something nefarious, right?
Ayers was never convicted, never served time….which is better than your felon hero…the Scooter….who was convicted but freed by the criminal in chief.
Please, smear the silly smear around, Swiftboater King. You have absolutely nothing of substance to use effectively against Barack. He's progressive in his policy planning. But that's what the American people want……more progressive policies.
So all you have is the hollow sophomoric smear-by-association and race baiting games of Sean Hannity, Bill-o, Laura, Annie, Tim Russert, George Stephanopolous and the rest of the unredeemably corrupt Knee Pad Group.
The American people are smarter than to fall for all this stupidity.
Do you nuts have ANYTHING that you can smear with that isn't 40 years old? Can't you go back further, perhaps in the geneology, and find something in the bloodline that makes Obama a mass murderer or something? At least try to keep me entertained while you are embarassing yourself with vacuuous attempts to discredit our next president.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Rev,
Wow. You are actually defending the admitted and unrepentant Weatherman bomber and traitorous criminal William Ayers. I didn't think even you would sink that low. Your credibility rating just sunk into the negatives. Time for a brain transplant, my friend.
Btw, what part of my words were a swiftboat attack on Obama ? Hmmm ? All I did was relate the facts, which, as John Adams once said, are stubborn things.
I suspect you didn't even read what I wrote, and are just arguing on autopilot in an incoherent attempt to defend your hero Obama. Ironic, since I didn't really accuse Obama of anything, other than being a left wing politician, which is hardly a revelation.
April 25th, 2008 at 9:51 am
"…Ayers is a radical, and he seems to have found a comfortable home in the university environment. That doesn't speak well of our universities…"
King, you have out-understated yourself!
April 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Did you know Obama is a secret Muslim!!!!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Brent asks, "Did you know Obama is a secret Muslim!!!!!!!!"
No I did not know that, Brent.
What I and the rest of America knows, however, is that B. Hussein Obama hangs around with America haters (the racist Wright, scumbag Ayers, and Michelle, BO's loathsome wife) and is probable one himself deep down inside.
More importantly, one can reason with pretty good confidence that a fair percentage of BHO supporters are themselves guilty of not wishing America well. In fact, you see a number of them posting their dribble here.
Remember the truism of contemporary American politics: What's good for the Dims is bad for America, and what's bad for America is good for the Dims. That defines the Dims as well as noting that their party is one of evil.
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King writes of the Akron Atheist, "Time for a brain transplant, my friend."
Yup, that's another one stumbling down the Yellow Brick Road hoping to find the Wizard to give him a brain. So far, he's been luckless — and it shows.
April 25th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Boring and unoriginal.
Which right wing media source gave you the idea to run the Ayers story? Or is there some fax-blast from Karl Rove's old office that has the text prewritten for you?
April 25th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Ayers is a disgrace and so are those that hail his demeanor or employ him. He represents a sliver of what is totally defunct in our nation.
By the time our 1 year old, is of college age, I can only imagine what our academic institutions will resemble. Even though he doesn't know it yet, he'll not be permitted to attend Kent or Oberlin. It's not that we'll lack faith in our parenting efforts, but more so the relentless attack of liberalism within our academia.
The food chain is frightening: Conservative parents shell out plenty for their child's tuition, in the effort to establish self-reliance. Liberal profs then use our money to purchase Kool-Aid, twist the student's lids off, and nudge them to adopt philosophies which promote government reliance. These young adults are still naive enough to view the "establishment" as one that only professes "truth". However, those who choose to question these views are merely compromising their marks.
Before these young adults ever enter the workforce, or truly understand the concept of where their money will go, they'll be molded into drones that dismiss high taxation as an obligation, treason as a freedom of speech, religion as fascism, and morals as restrictions.
Misery loves company and our youth represent the ideal target. Even our grade schools are under severe attack from liberals that have launched all out offensives to promote homosexualism, pre-marital sex, and abortion.
There is a bright side to this sad state of affairs. The teachings of liberalism seem to have minimal effects once age and wisdom set in. Get em while they're young. Reminds me of the dating years.
April 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
America is liberalism. Without liberalism in America all you would have is Iranian style totalitarianism.
To denounce our best educational institutions is to surrender the argument.
There are many Americans, yes, who want us to remain in some 1949 time warp thingy. This is 2008. Everything has changed.
Children and college students are taught to be tolerant as well as to think for themselves. Children and college students are taught modern science, modern archeaology, modern medicine, modern astronomy, modern economics and political science and history…..all of that is called dreaded liberalism by some conservatives.
Simply untenable, all around.
Wise humans become more liberal, the older they get. The reason is simple. The closer your death comes, the more you realize that life is not all about telling others what to do, it's really all about setting others free.
Conservatives have it backwards.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Alex,
That is why Joe Sobren called the public school and the colleges & universities the reproductive organs of the Left.
Liberals tend towards abortions and small famalies. As a result, they overall don't reproduce themselves. Instread, they rely on corrupting other people's children to replucate themselves.
April 26th, 2008 at 5:33 am
Ghost–Why do you use this forum to spew your hatred for all Democrats—never mind, there is no having an intelligent discussion with people like you—you'll find some asinine thing to say just to make yourself sound like mini-Hitler–I find your comments abusive and downright stupid, frankly, for you to write off the entire Democratic community with one feld swoop–it limits your credibility with everyone with such bombastic talk—when I see your name attached to a post, I can predict what I will be reading—such a waste of time to me. Start acting like an adult with something more to say than hatred, would you? UT OH—here it comes—the idiotic assault machine—
April 26th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Hate and racism are the province of today's Dim Party — not me. Both these traits have been honed to a fine art by the leftists within your ranks. Fact.
The Ghost does not "spew" hate; he offers objective analysis.
But since the facts hurt you so, Small Change, don't read it. Stay safe with your illusions.
It's not my fault that the Dims have positioned themselves so that what is good for America is bad for them and what is bad for America is good for the Dims — and not to mention that the Dims are fully wedded to the sordid abortion industry. [Never forget that latter point, Chief. It says so much about you Dims]
Yes indeed, the Dims have done this all on their own — for the sake of trying to get a cheap political advantage in elections. But since it looks like this tactic is backfiring on them, you yelp like a scalded hound, lashing out at the messenger rather than dealing with the issues.
April 26th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
King, I am wondering how deep into the links you provided anyone but me has dug. I am now more convinced that I know why the Dims and the MSM want so badly to hide as much of Obama's past from us as they can. When I listened to Ayers and Dohrn talk on the US of KKK A in their early days and then immediately after that heard them talking in 2007 I just couldn't see that they had changed much. Older but just as far left, America hating as they had ever been.
I have been wondering and asking just who that group that elevated Obama from unsuccessful candidate for House of Representatives in 2000 to the present were. Conspiracy the lefties will howl but I think I have found the group in reading and listening to all the links you provided. Well, I must admit that I dug a bit beyond them but the proof is there for anyone who is willing to dig a bit. Too much proof concerning the names of all those people who were "bad" 40 years ago but who have moved in with a worse group today. Wow, King, I think that old Rev Red could learn so much if he would take down the liberal screen he has used to keep new info from entering his head all these years. Several more here could stand to do some reading and listening to things that don't build Obama and his cabal up for reasons that become clearer and clearer.
Thanks for this one, King.
April 26th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Bullcrap, Ghost—Republicans have nary made a difference in my life but one of increased difficulty trying to tread water—You do not do "objective analysis" in any way , shape , or form. You use ugly name-calling, which may hearten your personal power and drive, but makes you look and sound like someone who does not really know anything else to say.
As far as abortions—every female I ever knew who got an abortion was a religious fanatic and usually Republican-leaning,
then they went on to getting prego again, because they didn't think prophylactics were
"something God would approve of " or they just couldn't bring themselves to a Doctor, fearing their parents would find out they were sexually active—and again got abortions—I never had an abortion, never needed one because my long-deceased Mother, saw to it that we had open communication and when I did become sexually active and and felt comfortable revealing this to her, she saw to it that I got on "the Pill", and admonished me to "never have sex with someone you cannot see being the father of your children" thus giving me sage advice and with the meds, avoiding unwanted pregnancies or the heartbreak of a possible abortion.
Most times, in my own experience , it was the male who pushed for sex—pushed and cajoled and threatened and finally this: "If you love me, you will give me your body"—over and over again. So don't go around spouting about abortion being the sole doings of just Democrats— the horribleness of what a female has to go through when she finds her self prego—only to find the boyfriend has hightailed it on to his next conquest and she is the one who must make that awful decision. I am not pro-abortion but I would NEVER take it upon myself to tell someone else what is right for their life.
Your consistent use of the term Dim diminishes YOU, not me.
April 26th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Worth every penny. Bravo.
April 27th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Red, you didn't make any points there. Only 2 pennies aren't much. LOL
April 27th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Maybe we should outlaw abortion and mandate 'sage advice.'
April 27th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Obama… " I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction "
Obama has won the endorsement of the Terrorist Organization Hamas.
Do we want this Threat To National Security as President ?
April 27th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Rebecca says, "I am not pro-abortion but I would NEVER take it upon myself to tell someone else what is right for their life."
This is as an immoral argument as someone who said in 1850, "I don't approve of slavery and I myself would never own one, but who am I to tell others they can't have slaves." Indeed.
Both the arguments for allowing others to 1) own slaves and 2) have abortions are morally indefensible. They are the products of a morally corrupted or confused mind.
And guess what? Slavery [and Jim Crow laws] was the policy of the Dims as is abortion to day.
And some idiot here had the nerve to ask, "Gee Ghost, why do you say the Dims are the party of evil?"
April 27th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Ghost—NO, NO, NO. I would not have been a slave-owner and I would have fought that immoral way of shoring up an economy. I would have been on the front lines of that war against slavery and would have taken a bullet for it, too.
But, I understand the complexities of pregnancy, and I know where my boundaries are and where others' boundaries are.
Although I think abortion is a horrendous practice, and do counsel women and young ladies to that end, I would never think it my place to tell others what decisions they should or should not make concerning having babies—that is personal. Now, do you want someone not knowing your life telling you that you should or should not do something? I trust people enough to know what decision is best for their own life, and having a baby is no simple thing. Until you have walked in the shoes of a woman finding herself pregnant with no support, don't talk.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Sadly, Fox News has let us down. The Chris Wallace interview of Obama Bin Liar was obviously pre scripted. The Power Monger had his lies memorized for all the questions. A total waste of time, How can we ever get the public enlightened about this Terrorist endorsed Anti-American ?
God Help Us All !!!
April 28th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Rebecca says, "NO, NO, NO. I would not have been a slave-owner and I would have fought that immoral way of shoring up an economy. I would have been on the front lines of that war against slavery and would have taken a bullet for it, too."
Yet you fight for the right of a woman to murder her own unborn baby. And why? Because you "understand the complexity of pregnancy." Lame.
So perhaps if you understood the 'complexity of slavery,' you'd have fought to have keep that legal, too.
At any rate, logic seems to escapes you. You supposedly defend the legality of abortion but not slavery when by any objective measure abortion (which involves killing an innocent) is the far more evil of the two.
April 28th, 2008 at 7:32 am
FOX News: I, for one, appreciate your objectivity.
April 28th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Ghost–your brand of "logic" escapes me.
Do you know that most women have natural abortions and don't even know it as they happen? Babies are expelled quite often by Mother Nature—now I know this does not correlate with induced abortions, but Nature has a superior logic far above humankind—
Also, slavery and abortion are not the same at all. And as I said prior, I do not "fight" for a woman's right to abortion at all–I only said that I do not involve myself in such private matters—which as a Democrat may seem to you like an oxymoron–isn't it usually Republicans that fight against government or societal solutions to private endeavors or problems? Why as a Republican against governmental interference in private matters would you involve yourself in other peoples' private matters?
People, both male and female, should keep their pants on, and stop to think about the possible unborn being they might manufacture with their passion of the moment—not really that difficult. We all know there are other means to sexual satisfaction besides intercourse. It really is a matter of thinking ahead and putting aside the powerful but transient moment—I am not pro-abortion, but pro-thinking—not so hard.
As for slavery, that ugly thing of our ugly past—knowing myself, I would never have taken part—however, I would argue today that most of us out here are now indentured servants—indentured to credit cards, debt, low-paying jobs, political realities that we cannot seem to change, the media which manipulates our attitudes and corporate empiricists who control everything from our dwindling food supplies to our water that we drink—–scary stuff, Ghost.
Now, I appreciate your sympathy for the unborn. I understand that—it is an awful thing that a Mother would resort to such a horrific solution. But I do not tell others what to think or do—I only express my thoughts on the matter and allow others to derive their own conclusions.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:20 am
The thing I like about the abortion issue is that each side always brings interesting new points into the mix and there's always the possibility that one side or the other is going to make some headway getting the other party to agree.
April 28th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
“Why as a Republican against governmental interference in private matters would you involve yourself in other peoples' private matters?”
Look at your irrationality. The Republican fought against slavery while the Dims supported it — just like today’s Republicans fight, as a party, against allowing a mother the right to “off” her unborn baby for any old reason that floats into her head.
Furthermore, slavery was a private matter, so why did the North interfere with it in the South? Any answer from you or any other Dim here?
You seem to have empathy for the women, but none for the baby who is ripped apart in the abortion procedure.
Let me make it easy for you all.
Slavery denied Negroes basic human rights. And until the Civil War, it was fully constitutional. Fact.
Today, abortion denies unborn babies even a more fundamental human right — the right to life. And since 1972 up and until this moment, the killing of unborn babies has been constitutional also.
So what is Constitutional is not necessarily not what is morally right. Come on, even dim Dims should get this; it ain‘t rocket science.
April 28th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
As a man who impregnates a woman you have no right to tell her what to do with what is happening to her body. None.
Leave your genetic material out of her and you won't have a problem.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Abortion = murder.
Anybody with a conscience — man or woman — has not only the right but the moral obligation to work to stop the wrong that is abortion.
You cannot continue to deny the right to life to unborn babies just because it is convenient for some women to do so.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Ghost—It is not "convenient" to get an abortion. It is a horrible thing for which women are stuck–perhaps it is "convenient" for some who use it as a tool for contraception, but ask any woman who has gone through with one whether it was a comfortable decision that they have gotten over—most will say, "NO".
The world needs less people–we are like a rampant, out-of-control bacteria on the face of Mother Earth. Mother Earth, in her wisdom, will take care of it for us if we don't. She will shake us all off violently in one big giant abortion—or just a slow , painful choking off of our supplies of food, water, air and soil. As a matter of fact, I think she has already started about that awful task. I say, more power to her.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
You're hopeless. Your moral compass is broken. There is no more to say to the likes of you.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Tom asks,
"Which right wing media source gave you the idea to run the Ayers story? Or is there some fax-blast from Karl Rove's old office that has the text prewritten for you?"
Since I provided links to some of my sources Tom, even you should be able to figure it out. All non-quoted words are mine. Karl Rove isn't going to prepare anything for me to write until next week. Until then, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter are telling me what to say. Tell Markos Moulitsas I said hello.
Attacking the messenger is pretty silly here, Tom. Ayers and Dohrn are radicals and terrorists, and now they are filling the minds of our children with their drivel. Maybe you should be more concerned with that than with some imaginary fear over Karl Rove.
April 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Rev says, "The closer your death comes, the more you realize that life is not all about telling others what to do, it's really all about setting others free."
Spoken like a true believer, Rev. Calling liberal big government, high tax, socialist policy "setting others free" is a world class oxymoron. Where do come up with this stuff ? Has Castro come out with a joke book ? Low taxes, limited government, individual rights, free markets, THOSE things are about setting people free. The philosophy you embrace, modern liberalism, is all about government control. It is the refutation of freedom, leading inevitably to totalitarianism if carried to it's logical conclusion. That's why people get more conservative as they get older and WISER.