See Ben Stein's movie "Expelled" to learn how the atheists and secularists try to censor debate in the universities between Darwinism vs. Intelligent Design.

It seems the evolutionists are as totalitarian as Joe Stalin was.

"I don't see why the two cannot co-exist quite nicely."

It's true, you probably can't see why.

And that's the problem.

Religion is based on the untestable. Religion cannot be tested through the scientific method. There's nothing to test. Religion is structured faith without evidence. Believing for no reason whatsoever.

Science is testable. Science is provable. Science is empirical and not based on faith…in any way. Just the opposite of religion.

How these can "coexist quite nicely", to me is oxymoronic. The two should never "coexist quite nicely". Science should have nothing whatsoever to do with religion in the same way science should have nothing whatsoever to do with astrology.

The only saving grace in America is that religion was given liberty, yet government was to have nothing to do with religion. In the same and proper way that science should have nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

And when you look at it, atheism is not so much a belief that there is no God but more a hope that there isn't One.

This hope is founded on the dual desire to be free of all moral constraints that the Creator has imposed and the subsequent judgment for failing to live up to the natural law that is imprinted on every soul.

Across the world, atheism is dying. Only in affluent societies can the foolishness of atheism exist, an affluence, i might add, brought about by Judeo-Christian principles.

So King, ignore the atheists. These lost souls foolishly think they can blot out the sun [Son] by throwing rocks at it. Let 'em keep throwing; the sun [Son] will keep shining.

I knew I could count on you to display the exact air of atheistic superiority [based upon nothing] that was the centerpiece of my post. Thank you. You have no idea what you are talking about, yet you are still strident about it. You are just offering your opinion. If you can walk outside, and the grandeur and mind boggling complexity of nature doesn't give you pause, and perhaps lead you to consider that there may be a higher power at work, that is your right and you are welcome to it. However, there is nothing that makes your opinion the correct one.

I also challenge you to show me where I said anything that was anti-science. I don't believe you can do that. I certainly did not say I don't believe in evolution, as you seemed to suggest. The choice is not between God and science. That is your construct, not mine. I don't see why the two cannot co-exist quite nicely.

When I said, ""What I find absolutely illogical is the idea that all this happened by some random collision of atoms, some cosmic accident", you responded with, "I'll stop with this….I could write a short book on the material in your post here….evolution is based on natural selection, not randomness." But I was talking about the entire creation of the universe, not merely the ascendancy of man. Evolution has nothing to do with it. The order, existence, and complexity of the universe either happened entirely at random, or it didn't (intelligent design). You may believe as you wish, but again, it would only be your opinion. There are no facts to back you up.

And history does not prove that religion poisons everything. What a bankrupt concept. I could equally well say history proves that atheism poisons everything (the biggest mass murdering states in history (Stalin, Mao) were atheistic)). History actually proves neither proposition. What history proves is that man is imperfect. Religion (man-made and apart from the concept of God, if you haven't realized) is, among other things, a means to attempt to find moral order and meaning. Like any other man-made institution, religion can be used for good or bad, but I hardly think the big problems with America today are centered around church worship. I think a much stronger case could be made for the opposite.

Today I have read two things about the coming ice age that we are already in. It has something to do with sunspots or the lack of and they have a lot of proof and don't mention one word about carbon dioxide.

Now Red you are one of those who celebrated the Nobel Prize for Algore aren't you? Poor soul, both you and Algore.

"I mean, would liberals ridicule Martin Luther King's civil rights message today simply because King held a steadfast belief in God ?"

I don't object to the Pope because he believes in God, I object to the Pope because he runs a corrupt, pedophilia cover-up business, has absolutely NO moral authority to speak to Americans and stretches the separation clause of the Constitution by rubbing too closely with our president.

Speaking of Catholics you say…

"They aren't child-abusers, but the smirking moron Maher doesn't mind offending every one of them."

You sound a bit like the Muslims objecting over the cartoons of Mohammed. And where is it written that Catholics should be immune from being offended? A Catholic who still devoutly supports an international business that rapes underage boys and covers it all up….needs offending.

" All it takes for me to discard atheism is to walk outside and observe the grandeur of nature."

Here, you stepped in it. When you see cancer afflicting children, when you 'walk outside", what's that inform you about a God? When you watch the tsunamis of the world drown tens of thousands, when you "walk outside", what's that tell you about a God?

So when the survivors of the Holocaust "walked outside" and observed nature, did their belief in a God strenghthen and did they simply discard the notion that no God existed?

Purely a subjective statement based on whim.

"What I find absolutely illogical is the idea that all this happened by some random collision of atoms, some cosmic accident."

I'll stop with this….I could write a short book on the material in your post here….evolution is based on natural selection, not randomness.

There seem to be two main choices. The magic books of myth and lore are true, factual and errorless…..or they're not. Scientific advancement has demonstrated clearly that the magic books are unreliable, contradictory and more often, simply wrong. It's all understandable given the scientific ignorance of the writer's day.

Scientists are virtually unanimous in their embracing of evolution. As science has gone about testing and verifying evolution, the magic books have been tested and found wanting.

Finally…history has also proven that religion poisons everything, God is NOT great, religion divides and kills and hates. It still is doing that today. Science enlightens, science makes progress, science unites us intelligently.

Where did the initial speck come from so that the universe could be?……Where did God come from? It's a wash at best and at least atheists trust in something we can see, even if it is a speck. Better than totally invisible.

There's much more here to deconstruct. I'll save it for a later post.

And I'm actually a 14-year old boy. If I was a girl, this blog would be called 'All Da Queens Men'. Can't get anything past you.

"In conclusion, atheists, before you go around parading your "superiority" and ridiculing those who think differently than you, just please admit that you have no idea what you're talking about. It's just your opinion, which is worth no more than anyone else's opinion. I'd suggest a little of that alleged liberal tolerance, love of free speech, and promotion of diversity is in order. Ditto for you believers in religion, of course. It's live and let live (as long as your religion isn't trying to crash planes into buildings or strap bombs to teenagers). Peace out. God is great."

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How old are you? Jesus. You write like a born-again 14-year-old girl, still giddy from that beacon of light you found in an all-teen Sunday school.