What Part of 'Illegal' Is Confusing ?
Posted September 28th, 2007 by Da King
The issue of illegal immigration comes down to this:
Is the United States allowed to control it's borders ?
If you answered 'Yes' to this question, you have mastered the obvious. Congratulations. Nowadays, that almost seems like an accomplishment. After all, our elite Ivy League universities allow repressive genocidal Islamofascist neo-nazis access to their microphones so our bright young minds can be exposed to 'free speech', so the obvious isn't as obvious as it used to be. It reminds me of that old saying, 'keep an open mind, but don't open it so wide that your brain falls out'.
If you answered 'No' to the question, you are either a fool, an illegal alien, or possibly a Columbia faculty member, so nobody cares what you think. The obvious continues to elude you.
If we don't have the right to control our borders, we are not even a country. Forget about sovereignty. Forget about the Constitution. They become meaningless words on meaningless pieces of paper. On the plus side, as if this could possibly be a plus, without a country, there is no reason to pay your taxes anymore, since we will all be living in a real life version of the movie Mad Max. Welcome to the Thunderdome.
So, assuming we can agree that the USA has a right to control it's borders, let's ask, THEN WHY DON'T WE ?
One reason is that aforementioned fools, who go by the name LIBERALS in the political world, have turned the issue on it's ear. They say that if we control our Mexican border, we are being racist, because Mexicans are from Mexico, you know, and they have brown skin. This is about as dumb as dumb can be, because we have the right to control our borders regardless of who is on the other side of them, but that's what they say. I'm not making it up. It would be an interesting social experiment to see what those same liberals would say if tens of millions of Canadians were coming into our country illegally. I'm sure the libs would be very confused as to how to react to that one. They'd probably think it was a neocon conspiracy to increase the number of white people in the country.
Another argument used by some of the pro-illegal alien lobby (can you even believe there IS such a thing, much less that they are taken seriously ?) is that 'the illegals do the jobs americans don't want to do'. Now, THERE is some racism for you. It's like saying the Mexicans are SUPPOSED to be our servants and our underlings. Some diversity that is. "Look Juan, I fought for your right to pick my fruit for 4 bucks a day !". Pick THIS, gringo.
So, it's the right of the USA to control it's borders, it's not racist to control the borders, and it's morally wrong to create a permanent underclass of semi-slaves to do our dirty work for us under the table.
So, what DO we do ? Have endless congressional discussions about it ? Propose a bunch of new legislation ?
Nope. We only need to do TWO things.
One: Enforce the laws already on the books. In 1986, we passed an immigration control act, but we didn't enforce it. So, the estimated 2.7 million illegals that were here then have grown to between 12-21 million. Nobody knows for sure. At this rate, it won't be long until there are 50 million illegals or more. That is what the failure to enforce the laws has done. Proposing amnesty, which some favor, isn't worth a darn until the flow of illegals is shut off, or at least slowed drastically. You can't fix an overflowing sink while the faucet is still running. The longer we wait, the harder this gets.
Two: Make Mexico stop the flow from their side. We have considerable economic influence with Mexico. They will do something about it if we make them. If we don't, they will continue to export their problems to this country.
September 28th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Uh, if we disrupt the illegal immigration flow from Mexico, just who do you think will haul all that marijuana across the border? Prices will skyrocket.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Excellent.
Watch out for the "Dream Act."
Senator Turban thinks he can sneak amnesty by us again. They keep trying. If the Entitlementalists were only this tenacious when it comes to fighting our enemies.
September 28th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
I beleive our federal government has had ample rescources and opportunity(for decades) to stem the tide of illegals. There must be major economic reasons for both Dems and GOP to ignore this huge problem for this long.
September 28th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Flags, I have tried to alert people to the Dream Act and with no result at all. Very few people know about it but when the Turbanned one manages to squeak it through the Senate it may become well known and disliked by many people. It is so sad that both Dems and Republicans will allow this thing to sneak through on a money bill, but they will if they can pull it off without losing too many votes.
da King, I certainly want to thank you for putting the answers to illegal immigration in front of people, whether many of them see your suggestions or not. We have got to stop this thing and I see something on my INBOX about the Mexican president saying something about we are coming and you can't stop us. I guess I need to see what that is all about.
September 29th, 2007 at 11:39 am
Wow - I wandered in here, and as much as I try not to believe the whole 'echo chamber' thing, I find the adolescent little inside jokes (Hah! I called the Senator from Illinois a raghead!) and the self-righteous rage and anger more worthy of a jr. high locker room than of a proud American tradition of political jousting and contention. H.L. Mencken (look him up) would be ashamed…ya'll are afraid of your own shadows.
Even the title is disturbing - who, exactly, are ya'll putting back together again, as the nursery rhyme says? I hope beyond hope that it's the Republic. And I hate to be too literal, but didn't our ancestors fight and die to rid us of kings? I'm hoping that the king (excuse me, "da king," which is either a tribute to the west side of Cleveland or a feeble attempt to be hip) is an ironic metaphorical device designed to remind us of our heritage as democratic republicans and members of a proud tradition that is anti-nobility. If, instead, it's this blogger's feeble attempts at trying to go Tony Soprano and erect a little bunch of nobles around him, then I do fear for our political system. Last I checked (but maybe it's changed recently), the Constitution mentioned nothing about 'warlords' or 'petty tyrants'.
Let the flames begin…
September 29th, 2007 at 11:58 am
In the Republican party the split on immigration is interesting. You have the nativist wing of the party that fears brown people and wants them out. The corporatist wing of the right wants them here for cheap labor.
September 29th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
I find it interesting that the U.S. has a very low unemployment rate in spite of the fact that there are approximately 10-12 million illegals inside the country.
There's never really been an argument about whether America has the right to secure it's border. The argument seems to be what to do with the illegals already here. Left and right can agree, and in fact did agree, to strengthen border security.
What talk radio decried was some kind of pseudo-amnesty concept that they, the talk show hosts, kind of, you know, just made up.
If conservatives were more self-aware on this issue, they would see that their screeds against amnesty and desire for fences looks and sounds like racism. What's telling is the lack of interest by these same conservatives for a northern border fence.
September 29th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
"desire for fences looks and sounds like racism."
Locking the doors of your home at night is not racisism, nor is the building of fences. Keeping people out of our country because of race or country of origin is.
We have to keep working people free of exploitation, which is a key of the corporate climate in this country as well as most other countries.
September 30th, 2007 at 2:52 am
da King, it's certainly interesting how the usual left-wing idiot suspects that slithered on here are so completely out in left field ( I just made a funny!!! ) on this issue, making the typical false and unsubstanted claims of "racism", exploitation, and amnesty, and in at least one case, a completely off-topic, irrelevant, rambling and nearly incoherant blithering that has hints of a poster I have long referred to as sLurp.
September 30th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Sunkl, I had to read that incoherent blithering piece twice, and I still didn't know what to make of it. My name seemed to throw him off into la la land. Can't imagine how he confronts the serious issues, lol.
Reverend, illegals aren't included in the unemployment numbers for what should be very obvious reasons. And border security certainly IS the issue. If is wasn't, we wouldn't be talking about amnesty for 12 million illegals, now would we ? As I said before, there is no use in talking about such amnesty for 12 million when there will soon be 20, 40, or 50 million of them. Until the government(s) show the will to enforce the border, this issue will never be resolved. That will has still not been shown. It doesn't matter if the politicians all agree unless they actually DO something, and they haven't done much but talk. And if we all agree on border security, why did you bring up the faux issue of a northern border fence ?
September 30th, 2007 at 11:41 am
Shit, I knew I shouldn't have bothered. I hope ya'll enjoy your echo chamber. I feel for the Republic (that's the U.S.A, in case you were wondering) when the people responsible for being good readers can't do even that fairly simple task.
Uh, you have a fairly egregious grammar error in your first subheading. I wouldn't care ordinarily, but you are paid to be a writer, right?
September 30th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
I said….
"I find it interesting that the U.S. has a very low unemployment rate in spite of the fact that there are approximately 10-12 million illegals inside the country."
You said….
"..illegals aren't included in the unemployment numbers for what should be very obvious reasons."
I guess I should have elaborated. Unemployment is 4 1/2-5%. Demand for labor is high. AND, demand for labor is still high with 10-12 million illegals already inside the country, who as you say, are not counted. The point is we actually NEED more labor from immigrants.
I said…
"There's never really been an argument about whether America has the right to secure it's border. The argument seems to be what to do with the illegals already here. Left and right can agree, and in fact did agree, to strengthen border security."
You said….
"And border security certainly IS the issue. If is wasn't, we wouldn't be talking about amnesty for 12 million illegals, now would we ?"
As you can plainly see I did not say security wasn't an issue, I said no one is arguing against security. It's the so-called amnesty that is the argument, Bush wanted to compromise, radiotalk show listeners and folks who don't like brown people, didn't. So we get zip.
September 30th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
chrisrick:You say…."Locking the doors of your home at night is not racisism, nor is the building of fences. Keeping people out of our country because of race or country of origin is."
What if you locked the back door because your back door faced a house full of black people and you left the front door unlocked because it faced a house full of white people?
I'm just sayin'
I do agree that there is a problem waiting to be solved with the immigration situation. But demand for labor is the cause.
October 1st, 2007 at 12:46 am
da King: Mortimer should have used the name, "moronemer" because it fits him so well. He probably took a few too many tokes off the bong.
Seems like the stupe just can't seem to grasp the meaning of "illegal" immigrants.
Legal immigrants are an asset to the country, and their contributions are always welcomed here.
ILLEGAL immigrants do NOTHING for the country they invade, other than drag down the standard of living for every one, if by no other thing than putting an unbearable burden on all the tax-payer services….medical, educational, social, and environmental.
Numerous studies have proven that, contrary to claims from idiots like stupe, illegal aliens produce a net loss of tax moneys to the country.
October 1st, 2007 at 8:20 am
Mortimer: Let me know when you are done playing Trivial Pursuit. FYI - Nobody is paying me to write this blog.
Reverend: Actually, there are MANY people arguing against the right of the US to control it's borders, and for the third time, I have to tell you that amnesty is useless unless the flow of illegals stops or slows drastically. That is my point. The flow of illegals has NOT stopped. How can that be if, as you say, everybody agrees about security ? Our congress talks a lot, which I'm sure you've noticed, but they come up decidedly short on the action end. The issue of illegal immigrants is most assuredly a case in point. As I also pointed out previously, congress 'dealt with' this issue in 1986, yet the issue grew and grew, didn't it ?
Sunkl: You are exactly right. This country was built by immigrants. This country takes in more immigrants than any other country in the world. Our Reverend's hints that the US is racist because we oppose illegals is asinine and unworthy of a response. We welcome immigrants like no other. Just come in the front door legally. That's all we ask.