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	<title>Comments on: Gameblog:  Cavs vs. Nuggets &#8211; Quicken Loans Arena &#8211; The Aftermath</title>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alan - why is this so hard to figure out?  its doesnt take much to knock someone off balance when that person isn&#039;t expecting the blow coming and the other person is 6 foot 9, 240 lbs and drops his shoulder and thrusts it into the other guy&#039;s chest.  im done wasting my time on this argument.  that was not a flop, and even if so, not even close to one worthy of a technical.  the cavs won and thats what we should be talking about - not whether or not andy may or may not have flopped by taking an extra step backwards by an obviously cheap and dirty play by kenyon martin at a fairly meaningless point of a game the cavs had already won.  and by the way, most of your moronic exaggerations, metaphors and analogies are MUCH worse than any of andy&#039;s flops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alan &#8211; why is this so hard to figure out?  its doesnt take much to knock someone off balance when that person isn&#8217;t expecting the blow coming and the other person is 6 foot 9, 240 lbs and drops his shoulder and thrusts it into the other guy&#8217;s chest.  im done wasting my time on this argument.  that was not a flop, and even if so, not even close to one worthy of a technical.  the cavs won and thats what we should be talking about &#8211; not whether or not andy may or may not have flopped by taking an extra step backwards by an obviously cheap and dirty play by kenyon martin at a fairly meaningless point of a game the cavs had already won.  and by the way, most of your moronic exaggerations, metaphors and analogies are MUCH worse than any of andy&#8217;s flops.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alan - that wasnt a flop.  your ridiculous hyperbole won&#039;t change that.  if that was anyone else, this wouldnt even be discussed.  youre making a mountain out of a molehill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alan &#8211; that wasnt a flop.  your ridiculous hyperbole won&#8217;t change that.  if that was anyone else, this wouldnt even be discussed.  youre making a mountain out of a molehill.</p>
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		<title>By: Av</title>
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		<dc:creator>Av</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan t why such venom towards verejao?u a pisstains fan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan t why such venom towards verejao?u a pisstains fan?</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bill, Varejao has a flop and a half a flop for every occasion.  He does drama.  He does comedy.  He&#039;s an actor.  He&#039;s a singer.  Balance, no balance, fall on ass, fall sideways on half an ass, fall and recover before ass hits ground, whatever.  At this point, the wigged Brazilian Nicole Kidman is crying wolf.  The credibility is long gone.  Call a T.  And James would have lost his balance only if he did a little Karl Malone-type flopping himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bill, Varejao has a flop and a half a flop for every occasion.  He does drama.  He does comedy.  He&#8217;s an actor.  He&#8217;s a singer.  Balance, no balance, fall on ass, fall sideways on half an ass, fall and recover before ass hits ground, whatever.  At this point, the wigged Brazilian Nicole Kidman is crying wolf.  The credibility is long gone.  Call a T.  And James would have lost his balance only if he did a little Karl Malone-type flopping himself.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed varejao flops.  what happened last night when martin got his second technical was not a flop.  not even close.  you dont &quot;flop&quot; and then try to catch your balance.  you flop and fall over in order to give the exaggeration full effect.  that particular incident goes against every logical explanation and definition of a flop.  not a flop.  im not saying he&#039;s the hulk, but when a guy like martin drops his shoulder and barrels it into your chest when youre not expecting it, youre going to stumble backwards a step or two and try to catch your balance, which is exactly what andy did.  even lbj would have likely lost his balance and stumbled after that.  not a flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed varejao flops.  what happened last night when martin got his second technical was not a flop.  not even close.  you dont &#8220;flop&#8221; and then try to catch your balance.  you flop and fall over in order to give the exaggeration full effect.  that particular incident goes against every logical explanation and definition of a flop.  not a flop.  im not saying he&#8217;s the hulk, but when a guy like martin drops his shoulder and barrels it into your chest when youre not expecting it, youre going to stumble backwards a step or two and try to catch your balance, which is exactly what andy did.  even lbj would have likely lost his balance and stumbled after that.  not a flop.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Varejao&#039;s tired Hollywood act was one of the primary reasons the NBA finally said enough is enough.  They need to make an example of that Flopmeister and call a T long before Ferry gets rid of him at the trade deadline.  Yesterday&#039;s game was a perfect opportunity.  He&#039;s not the Hulk, but he&#039;s not made of dandelions and straw, ether.  Flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Varejao&#8217;s tired Hollywood act was one of the primary reasons the NBA finally said enough is enough.  They need to make an example of that Flopmeister and call a T long before Ferry gets rid of him at the trade deadline.  Yesterday&#8217;s game was a perfect opportunity.  He&#8217;s not the Hulk, but he&#8217;s not made of dandelions and straw, ether.  Flop.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in fact, the more i think about it, saying martin set an illegal pick isnt really accurate since he was on defense.  andy had actually just passed the ball to lbj and was in the process to set his feet in order to set his own pick.  in that situation, the last thing andy would be looking to do is flop to draw a foul.  thats something to typically do on defense, not on offense.  martin just simply dropped his shoulder and rammed it into varajao for no reason - clearly a foul (but flagrant 2 is excessive, in my opinion).  that was no flop - not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in fact, the more i think about it, saying martin set an illegal pick isnt really accurate since he was on defense.  andy had actually just passed the ball to lbj and was in the process to set his feet in order to set his own pick.  in that situation, the last thing andy would be looking to do is flop to draw a foul.  thats something to typically do on defense, not on offense.  martin just simply dropped his shoulder and rammed it into varajao for no reason &#8211; clearly a foul (but flagrant 2 is excessive, in my opinion).  that was no flop &#8211; not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, andy didnt even leave his feet on that martin pick.  how is that a flop?  he was moving and martin&#039;s illegal pick knocked varejao backwards a step or two and off balance.  frankly, that seems pretty reasonable when a guy who&#039;s 6 foot 9, 240 lbs drops his shoulder and thrusts it into your chest.  even if varejao did &quot;flop&quot; (which he didnt there), by your own admission “the most egregious type of flops&quot; are to be called technicals per the NBA.  you really think andy stumbling back a step or two qualifies as “a most egregious type of flop??”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, andy didnt even leave his feet on that martin pick.  how is that a flop?  he was moving and martin&#8217;s illegal pick knocked varejao backwards a step or two and off balance.  frankly, that seems pretty reasonable when a guy who&#8217;s 6 foot 9, 240 lbs drops his shoulder and thrusts it into your chest.  even if varejao did &#8220;flop&#8221; (which he didnt there), by your own admission “the most egregious type of flops&#8221; are to be called technicals per the NBA.  you really think andy stumbling back a step or two qualifies as “a most egregious type of flop??”</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...ok alan.  ill grant you if andy had ended up landing in the third row and crushing a crying baby after that Martin pick, then i can live with a flop being called.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;ok alan.  ill grant you if andy had ended up landing in the third row and crushing a crying baby after that Martin pick, then i can live with a flop being called.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A flop is a flop.  A flop is an exaggeration.  It doesn&#039;t matter if there was a foul.  At what point does it actually become a &quot;flop?&quot;  If Varejao had continued his South American flying trapeze act and ended up landing in the third row and crushing a crying baby after that Martin pick, would you then still say because it was an illegal pick, then it wasn&#039;t a &quot;flop?&quot;  Who cares if if was a foul on Martin or not.  They said they would be calling a technical for that brand of Portuguese Vlade Divac baloney.  They should have called it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A flop is a flop.  A flop is an exaggeration.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if there was a foul.  At what point does it actually become a &#8220;flop?&#8221;  If Varejao had continued his South American flying trapeze act and ended up landing in the third row and crushing a crying baby after that Martin pick, would you then still say because it was an illegal pick, then it wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;flop?&#8221;  Who cares if if was a foul on Martin or not.  They said they would be calling a technical for that brand of Portuguese Vlade Divac baloney.  They should have called it.</p>
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