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		<title>By: Addicus</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/04/16/my-nba-awards-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-57811</link>
		<dc:creator>Addicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.  I was linked to your blog on a website I go to.  My comment is about your vote on the MVP.  Not who you voted for or why this year, but why you said you wouldn&#039;t vote for Kobe Bryant in the past.

&quot;However, my fiercest criticism of Bryant over the years was he was not a team player. I felt his 81-point game, for example, was a reason I would not vote for him.&quot;

If you had said the same thing you said about LeBron, his team just didn&#039;t get enough wins, I&#039;d be okay.  What you did say was simply stupid.  Did you watch that game?  Ever.  Did you watch Kobe pass the ball to his teammates for open shots and they just clanked them all?  Did you see Smush Parker and Kwame Brown turn the ball over like they were bakers watching food in the oven?  You realize most of those points were scored in the second half (he had 25 points at halftime)?

Your comment is akin to saying you wouldn&#039;t give World Series MVP to a guy who hit 3 grand slams in a game, the last coming with 2 outs in the 9th and his team down by 3 because he wasn&#039;t a team player.  He should have hit a triple.

Watch the 81 game and you will see the ultimate team player.  A guy who did all he could to get his mates into it and took over completely when they failed.  The Lakers won that game and were down 25.  Why?  81 points!

What I never could get was how baseball writers could separate their hate for Barry Bonds and the simple fact he was the MVP of their league, but basketball writers are infested with hate.  I&#039;m glad you already voted, because I&#039;m sure this could get you to change your vote.

Oh yeah - Kobe isn&#039;t playing any different than he has for the last two years.  His teammates are just much better players through either development or trade.   The league should change the title of the award to the Most Outstanding Player.  That way Kobe would have 2 and LeBron would be getting his first this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  I was linked to your blog on a website I go to.  My comment is about your vote on the MVP.  Not who you voted for or why this year, but why you said you wouldn&#8217;t vote for Kobe Bryant in the past.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, my fiercest criticism of Bryant over the years was he was not a team player. I felt his 81-point game, for example, was a reason I would not vote for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you had said the same thing you said about LeBron, his team just didn&#8217;t get enough wins, I&#8217;d be okay.  What you did say was simply stupid.  Did you watch that game?  Ever.  Did you watch Kobe pass the ball to his teammates for open shots and they just clanked them all?  Did you see Smush Parker and Kwame Brown turn the ball over like they were bakers watching food in the oven?  You realize most of those points were scored in the second half (he had 25 points at halftime)?</p>
<p>Your comment is akin to saying you wouldn&#8217;t give World Series MVP to a guy who hit 3 grand slams in a game, the last coming with 2 outs in the 9th and his team down by 3 because he wasn&#8217;t a team player.  He should have hit a triple.</p>
<p>Watch the 81 game and you will see the ultimate team player.  A guy who did all he could to get his mates into it and took over completely when they failed.  The Lakers won that game and were down 25.  Why?  81 points!</p>
<p>What I never could get was how baseball writers could separate their hate for Barry Bonds and the simple fact he was the MVP of their league, but basketball writers are infested with hate.  I&#8217;m glad you already voted, because I&#8217;m sure this could get you to change your vote.</p>
<p>Oh yeah &#8211; Kobe isn&#8217;t playing any different than he has for the last two years.  His teammates are just much better players through either development or trade.   The league should change the title of the award to the Most Outstanding Player.  That way Kobe would have 2 and LeBron would be getting his first this year.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s a pythagorean record? 

Even if they had won 45 games last year, a 20-win improvement would be pretty significant. Of course a 40-game improvement is significant.

Last October I was reading a lot about how the Celtics would flop this year, with no bench, no defense, no point guard, etc., etc. Some scoffed at the notion that the Cavs didn&#039;t keep up with the Celtics&#039; moves (sorry kj).

There&#039;s no denying the Celtics had a great season and Garnett was the biggest factor. His stats don&#039;t knock you out, but neither do Pierce&#039;s and Allen&#039;s. Defense and team play count for a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s a pythagorean record? </p>
<p>Even if they had won 45 games last year, a 20-win improvement would be pretty significant. Of course a 40-game improvement is significant.</p>
<p>Last October I was reading a lot about how the Celtics would flop this year, with no bench, no defense, no point guard, etc., etc. Some scoffed at the notion that the Cavs didn&#8217;t keep up with the Celtics&#8217; moves (sorry kj).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no denying the Celtics had a great season and Garnett was the biggest factor. His stats don&#8217;t knock you out, but neither do Pierce&#8217;s and Allen&#8217;s. Defense and team play count for a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The year-to-year win improvement means nothing, because the Celtics were actively tanking last year.  That wasn&#039;t a 24-win team last year, it was a 34-win team that mailed in the last half of the season.  Their Pythagorean W-L record was 31-51 even with the tanking.  They weren&#039;t a good team, but they weren&#039;t the joke of a team they held themselves out to be down the stretch.

I think that Garnett&#039;s intensity helped the Celtics avoid a lot of those give-away games that most teams have each year.  They believed they were part of something special before the season even started, and that kept the players motivated.  But the intensity level of all teams increases in the playoffs.  We still don&#039;t know if the Celtics have another level of intensity in them.  If they do, they will be the NBA Champions.  If they don&#039;t, the rumblings about Garnett, Allen and Pierce will begin again.  All the adulation they are currently receiving will turn to scorn right-quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The year-to-year win improvement means nothing, because the Celtics were actively tanking last year.  That wasn&#8217;t a 24-win team last year, it was a 34-win team that mailed in the last half of the season.  Their Pythagorean W-L record was 31-51 even with the tanking.  They weren&#8217;t a good team, but they weren&#8217;t the joke of a team they held themselves out to be down the stretch.</p>
<p>I think that Garnett&#8217;s intensity helped the Celtics avoid a lot of those give-away games that most teams have each year.  They believed they were part of something special before the season even started, and that kept the players motivated.  But the intensity level of all teams increases in the playoffs.  We still don&#8217;t know if the Celtics have another level of intensity in them.  If they do, they will be the NBA Champions.  If they don&#8217;t, the rumblings about Garnett, Allen and Pierce will begin again.  All the adulation they are currently receiving will turn to scorn right-quick.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get your point.  What does Pierce &quot;conveniently injured&quot; when they had Al Jefferson have to do with Garnett?  Taken another way, I suppose you can say that Garnett&#039;s presence on the Celtics caused Pierce to be &quot;conveniently uninjured.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get your point.  What does Pierce &#8220;conveniently injured&#8221; when they had Al Jefferson have to do with Garnett?  Taken another way, I suppose you can say that Garnett&#8217;s presence on the Celtics caused Pierce to be &#8220;conveniently uninjured.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: LeCavalier</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeCavalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Pierce was conveniently injured for most of last season...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Pierce was conveniently injured for most of last season&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john i disagree , you are not taking into account all the intangibles garnett brings to his team and brings to a game that jefferson just don&#039;t have at this time .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john i disagree , you are not taking into account all the intangibles garnett brings to his team and brings to a game that jefferson just don&#8217;t have at this time .</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and yes, I realize that Pierce didn&#039;t play a full season during the 24-win season.  It still doesn&#039;t explain the  ridiculous increase this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and yes, I realize that Pierce didn&#8217;t play a full season during the 24-win season.  It still doesn&#8217;t explain the  ridiculous increase this season.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John ... WHAT????  The Celtics would have had close to the same record with Al Jefferson?  But last year they *did* have Al Jefferson.  In essense, you&#039;re asserting it was Ray Allen, not Kevin Garnett, that was the underlying reason for a rise from a pathetic 24-58 to 66-16 in the very next season.  And plug in Jefferson instead of Garnett, it would have happened anyway.     

I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8230; WHAT????  The Celtics would have had close to the same record with Al Jefferson?  But last year they *did* have Al Jefferson.  In essense, you&#8217;re asserting it was Ray Allen, not Kevin Garnett, that was the underlying reason for a rise from a pathetic 24-58 to 66-16 in the very next season.  And plug in Jefferson instead of Garnett, it would have happened anyway.     </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise Garnett is Simmons choice for MVP. While I enjoy reading Simmons, he make no attempt to hide that he is a Boston homer, growing up here and being a diehard fan all his life. Every sports talk radio host in Boston also thinks Garnett should be MVP, not a whole lot of objectivity.

Personally, I think the Celtics would have close to the same record with Al Jefferson, instead of Garnett. Not quite as good, but close.

The MVP to me was a coin toss between Kobe and Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise Garnett is Simmons choice for MVP. While I enjoy reading Simmons, he make no attempt to hide that he is a Boston homer, growing up here and being a diehard fan all his life. Every sports talk radio host in Boston also thinks Garnett should be MVP, not a whole lot of objectivity.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the Celtics would have close to the same record with Al Jefferson, instead of Garnett. Not quite as good, but close.</p>
<p>The MVP to me was a coin toss between Kobe and Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alot of people hate on alot of players in sports. lebron might not be the best rolemodel but he is very good at what he does, everyone in pro sports says something about another player why don&#039;t you bring that up. if you ask me thats just pure jealousy, so wizfan quit hatin and let it go it happens and its going to continue to happen. you know just as well as me and everyone else lebron is the best, the ratings show it that is all the proff that i need</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alot of people hate on alot of players in sports. lebron might not be the best rolemodel but he is very good at what he does, everyone in pro sports says something about another player why don&#8217;t you bring that up. if you ask me thats just pure jealousy, so wizfan quit hatin and let it go it happens and its going to continue to happen. you know just as well as me and everyone else lebron is the best, the ratings show it that is all the proff that i need</p>
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