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		<title>By: B Dub</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/03/02/cavs-vs-bulls/comment-page-1/#comment-55230</link>
		<dc:creator>B Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really enjoyed some of the well written responses here -- I have been a member of the &quot;stop taking shots larry&quot; club for several years now.  I am also a member of the &quot;stop committing turnovers, sasha pavlovic&quot; club -- i liked the above quote that talked about him bowling over people.  I agree with the majority and cannot really agree with Josh -- and by the way Josh, you should eventually learn that the &quot;HOW DARE YOU?&quot; approach isn&#039;t really the best one when people are making extremely reasonable arguments.  Oh Larry is so above materialism - give me a break.

I think Larry has a right to be happy, and he has a right to value jacking up shots over winning.  But if he is going to claim those rights, and if you are going to DEFEND those rights, then what about the rights of the Wizards, Cavs and now Bulls, in knowing that they are getting some half-assed &quot;i don&#039;t care&quot; player before spending millions of dollars for him?

You want to be happy, fine.  You want offensive freedom to jack up truly horrible shots, fine.  You want to be a 39% career shooter, fine.  You suck, that is another story.  But if that has been your feeling all along, then you have flat out lied to the Cavs and lied to the Bulls, if not the Wizards.  In the &quot;corporate world&quot; that is sort of going down the &quot;fraudulent inducement&quot; route.  Larry was able to get these monster contracts because he &quot;materially misrepresented&quot; a key issue -- that winning meant something to him.  In the &quot;corporate world&quot;, that is illegal.  Your corporate metaphor sucks on so many levels, but here&#039;s just one.  If a person doesn&#039;t want to move up to higher and higher positions, and make more and more money, then fine.  That&#039;s fine.  Kudos.  But for them to SLACK off in their job?  To perform selfishly?  To undermine the goal of the group, of the corporation, to benefit their own sense of happiness?  That is a person that, should they make their feelings known, should be fired.

I harbor some ill will towards Larry just because I gave him love when he was only pretending to care about winning.  Well I&#039;m not pretending.  I fucking love this team.  And I am very, very interested to hear some Chicago reaction to this story.  How do the Bulls feel about their teammates priorities?  The fans?

Love the stuff, guys.  love the cavs.  lebron shouldn&#039;t leave it to the last minute, but damn is it exciting to watch.

go cavs. 
go indians.
go browns.
go buckeyes.

brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really enjoyed some of the well written responses here &#8212; I have been a member of the &#8220;stop taking shots larry&#8221; club for several years now.  I am also a member of the &#8220;stop committing turnovers, sasha pavlovic&#8221; club &#8212; i liked the above quote that talked about him bowling over people.  I agree with the majority and cannot really agree with Josh &#8212; and by the way Josh, you should eventually learn that the &#8220;HOW DARE YOU?&#8221; approach isn&#8217;t really the best one when people are making extremely reasonable arguments.  Oh Larry is so above materialism &#8211; give me a break.</p>
<p>I think Larry has a right to be happy, and he has a right to value jacking up shots over winning.  But if he is going to claim those rights, and if you are going to DEFEND those rights, then what about the rights of the Wizards, Cavs and now Bulls, in knowing that they are getting some half-assed &#8220;i don&#8217;t care&#8221; player before spending millions of dollars for him?</p>
<p>You want to be happy, fine.  You want offensive freedom to jack up truly horrible shots, fine.  You want to be a 39% career shooter, fine.  You suck, that is another story.  But if that has been your feeling all along, then you have flat out lied to the Cavs and lied to the Bulls, if not the Wizards.  In the &#8220;corporate world&#8221; that is sort of going down the &#8220;fraudulent inducement&#8221; route.  Larry was able to get these monster contracts because he &#8220;materially misrepresented&#8221; a key issue &#8212; that winning meant something to him.  In the &#8220;corporate world&#8221;, that is illegal.  Your corporate metaphor sucks on so many levels, but here&#8217;s just one.  If a person doesn&#8217;t want to move up to higher and higher positions, and make more and more money, then fine.  That&#8217;s fine.  Kudos.  But for them to SLACK off in their job?  To perform selfishly?  To undermine the goal of the group, of the corporation, to benefit their own sense of happiness?  That is a person that, should they make their feelings known, should be fired.</p>
<p>I harbor some ill will towards Larry just because I gave him love when he was only pretending to care about winning.  Well I&#8217;m not pretending.  I fucking love this team.  And I am very, very interested to hear some Chicago reaction to this story.  How do the Bulls feel about their teammates priorities?  The fans?</p>
<p>Love the stuff, guys.  love the cavs.  lebron shouldn&#8217;t leave it to the last minute, but damn is it exciting to watch.</p>
<p>go cavs.<br />
go indians.<br />
go browns.<br />
go buckeyes.</p>
<p>brian</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even three days later, I find Larry&#039;s quote the single most hilarious athlete quote I&#039;ve ever heard. I can&#039;t believe he said that on national TV.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even three days later, I find Larry&#8217;s quote the single most hilarious athlete quote I&#8217;ve ever heard. I can&#8217;t believe he said that on national TV&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jmoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Larry: I mees youz soo mucho. When I hoostle to 
get reebund and pass zee ball to yuuz and yuu jack up
zee clanker I can geet anuder reebund and paad mee stats.
Howw can eye hold out agin for mucho dinero when I doont
have de reebounds off yerz clankers. Pleez com bak too
de Cavaliers. Walzee an Jo and Dewontee mak der shoots 
an eye get no reebounz. I mees you an Ben is mad two 
becuz he want to cache yur clankers heer an you not heer.
Hee sayz he cannut renegotiat becuz you clankers is not
heer no more. Ans alzo Z got a bad back frum caching you
clankers and he mad cuz he cannut pley. You betta com
baack Laree. 

You freend, Da Wild Thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Larry: I mees youz soo mucho. When I hoostle to<br />
get reebund and pass zee ball to yuuz and yuu jack up<br />
zee clanker I can geet anuder reebund and paad mee stats.<br />
Howw can eye hold out agin for mucho dinero when I doont<br />
have de reebounds off yerz clankers. Pleez com bak too<br />
de Cavaliers. Walzee an Jo and Dewontee mak der shoots<br />
an eye get no reebounz. I mees you an Ben is mad two<br />
becuz he want to cache yur clankers heer an you not heer.<br />
Hee sayz he cannut renegotiat becuz you clankers is not<br />
heer no more. Ans alzo Z got a bad back frum caching you<br />
clankers and he mad cuz he cannut pley. You betta com<br />
baack Laree. </p>
<p>You freend, Da Wild Thing</p>
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		<title>By: Winning Isn&#8217;t Everything to Larry Hughes &#124; Larry Brown Sports</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winning Isn&#8217;t Everything to Larry Hughes &#124; Larry Brown Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] says he&#8217;s actually happier in Chicago than he was in Cleveland. Matter of fact, he says being himself is more important than winning: “I play to enjoy myself, some people take this the wrong way, but winning a championship is not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] says he&#8217;s actually happier in Chicago than he was in Cleveland. Matter of fact, he says being himself is more important than winning: “I play to enjoy myself, some people take this the wrong way, but winning a championship is not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KEY</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to let Larry know that he can play ball with some friends and I on Wednesday night at the rec center.  We always play to a tie, and everyone scores 20 to 24 a game.  And if you want to bring any of the millions that you made to give it to us schleps, maybe help pay for our gym time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to let Larry know that he can play ball with some friends and I on Wednesday night at the rec center.  We always play to a tie, and everyone scores 20 to 24 a game.  And if you want to bring any of the millions that you made to give it to us schleps, maybe help pay for our gym time.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo from Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo from Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just linked to your site from Bill Simmons at espn.com and I think that Cleveland is more of a contender after the trade. I thought Hughes was bad news but wow.

Also I had never heard of players getting drug tested. Nice insight. See y&#039;all at the finals (again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just linked to your site from Bill Simmons at espn.com and I think that Cleveland is more of a contender after the trade. I thought Hughes was bad news but wow.</p>
<p>Also I had never heard of players getting drug tested. Nice insight. See y&#8217;all at the finals (again).</p>
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		<title>By: The Countdown Begins</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Countdown Begins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebronjayz022508&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns</description>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its also worth noting that a professional athlete who says he doesn&#039;t care about winning is also essentially saying, &quot;I don&#039;t care if my coach has a job.  I don&#039;t care if our GM has a job.  I don&#039;t care if the lower-level players have jobs.  I don&#039;t care if the owner loses money.  My happiness is much more important.&quot;

You can&#039;t defend that which is indefensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its also worth noting that a professional athlete who says he doesn&#8217;t care about winning is also essentially saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t care if my coach has a job.  I don&#8217;t care if our GM has a job.  I don&#8217;t care if the lower-level players have jobs.  I don&#8217;t care if the owner loses money.  My happiness is much more important.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t defend that which is indefensible.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I find it sort of amusing that a 20-something kid making $30,000 annual gross &quot;in the corporate world&quot; is comparing himself to a guy nearing 30 who makes $14 million annual gross.  As if there is any valid comparison in any way, shape or form in their respective existential &quot;happy&quot; worlds.  Something is being lost in the translation here. 

I always get a kick out of guys who say they&#039;d play the game &quot;for free.&quot;  &quot;For the love of the game.&quot;  That is, until they&#039;re &quot;insulted&quot; by their latest contract offer.  Suddenly, where did all the love go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find it sort of amusing that a 20-something kid making $30,000 annual gross &#8220;in the corporate world&#8221; is comparing himself to a guy nearing 30 who makes $14 million annual gross.  As if there is any valid comparison in any way, shape or form in their respective existential &#8220;happy&#8221; worlds.  Something is being lost in the translation here. </p>
<p>I always get a kick out of guys who say they&#8217;d play the game &#8220;for free.&#8221;  &#8220;For the love of the game.&#8221;  That is, until they&#8217;re &#8220;insulted&#8221; by their latest contract offer.  Suddenly, where did all the love go?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, you are a fool.  Get down off your high horse and look at the facts.

Hughes wants it both ways.  He wants to have fun, not work hard and not worry about winning and losing.  But he also wants to be paid like a professional who&#039;s job is to win games.  If all he wanted from basketball was a good time, he could quit and head down to the local park and play.  But no, he wants to be a professional basketball player, so he can get paid like one.

Don&#039;t for a second think that Larry Hughes doesn&#039;t care about the money.  The only reason he is in Cleveland is because he thought the offer from the Wizards was so low that it was offensive to him and his overwhelming basketball talent.  He turned down a six-year, $72 Million deal because it wasn&#039;t good enough for him.  But somehow I don&#039;t think his desire &quot;just to have fun&quot; was brought up during the negotiations with the Cavaliers.

I&#039;m amazed that people are coming to Hughes&#039; defense here.  He knew what he was getting into when he signed the contract.  He&#039;s one of the few lucky people on this planet who has made enough money that he can *stop* doing the job he doesn&#039;t like and find something else, but he&#039;d rather just give a half-assed effort and keep collecting the check.  

Hughes is a disgrace, and while I don&#039;t expect him to care what I think, I can&#039;t believe that people would be supporting his decision to be a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, you are a fool.  Get down off your high horse and look at the facts.</p>
<p>Hughes wants it both ways.  He wants to have fun, not work hard and not worry about winning and losing.  But he also wants to be paid like a professional who&#8217;s job is to win games.  If all he wanted from basketball was a good time, he could quit and head down to the local park and play.  But no, he wants to be a professional basketball player, so he can get paid like one.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t for a second think that Larry Hughes doesn&#8217;t care about the money.  The only reason he is in Cleveland is because he thought the offer from the Wizards was so low that it was offensive to him and his overwhelming basketball talent.  He turned down a six-year, $72 Million deal because it wasn&#8217;t good enough for him.  But somehow I don&#8217;t think his desire &#8220;just to have fun&#8221; was brought up during the negotiations with the Cavaliers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed that people are coming to Hughes&#8217; defense here.  He knew what he was getting into when he signed the contract.  He&#8217;s one of the few lucky people on this planet who has made enough money that he can *stop* doing the job he doesn&#8217;t like and find something else, but he&#8217;d rather just give a half-assed effort and keep collecting the check.  </p>
<p>Hughes is a disgrace, and while I don&#8217;t expect him to care what I think, I can&#8217;t believe that people would be supporting his decision to be a disgrace.</p>
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