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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/02/21/blockbuster-arrives/#comment-54106</link>
		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that we needed any validation but kj I agree.  For as much as Simmons has lost credibility with his incessant Boston blowing, the guy understands the NBA.  It took him a couple of paragraphs to make the few obvious but important points about this trade that seem to be lost on most of the other "experts."  I like it that guys like Simmons and Hollinger like the trade while a bunch of the tv sock puppets and cavs haters like Rosen just spout a bunch of ridiculous nonsense that proves that they've only seen a handful of Cavs games all year (and didn't even bother to look at the Cavs cap situation after this deal).  Once again, I will say it now and even if it doesn't work out, I will stick with it:  Well done Danny Ferry.  You put together a move that most of us would have never even thought about (and rightfully so with Wallace's contract) that makes us a much better team now and doesn't do damage going forward.  Well done.  You have just proven your worth to this fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that we needed any validation but kj I agree.  For as much as Simmons has lost credibility with his incessant Boston blowing, the guy understands the NBA.  It took him a couple of paragraphs to make the few obvious but important points about this trade that seem to be lost on most of the other &#8220;experts.&#8221;  I like it that guys like Simmons and Hollinger like the trade while a bunch of the tv sock puppets and cavs haters like Rosen just spout a bunch of ridiculous nonsense that proves that they&#8217;ve only seen a handful of Cavs games all year (and didn&#8217;t even bother to look at the Cavs cap situation after this deal).  Once again, I will say it now and even if it doesn&#8217;t work out, I will stick with it:  Well done Danny Ferry.  You put together a move that most of us would have never even thought about (and rightfully so with Wallace&#8217;s contract) that makes us a much better team now and doesn&#8217;t do damage going forward.  Well done.  You have just proven your worth to this fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Z.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/02/21/blockbuster-arrives/#comment-54105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way Harry, Ira isn't a starter. 

Dude wasn't even playing the first 25+ games. "Starters" don't average 18 minutes a game. You can't be serious giving me the "he's on the floor to start the game stuff"...Boobie hurt, Sasha hurt, Brown liking D. Brown off the bench, D. Jones gets more minutes...You can't call Newble a real starter, maybe a default one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Harry, Ira isn&#8217;t a starter. </p>
<p>Dude wasn&#8217;t even playing the first 25+ games. &#8220;Starters&#8221; don&#8217;t average 18 minutes a game. You can&#8217;t be serious giving me the &#8220;he&#8217;s on the floor to start the game stuff&#8221;&#8230;Boobie hurt, Sasha hurt, Brown liking D. Brown off the bench, D. Jones gets more minutes&#8230;You can&#8217;t call Newble a real starter, maybe a default one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Z.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/02/21/blockbuster-arrives/#comment-54104</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simmons has been pimpin LBJ and the Cavs this year pretty hard.

He's quoted as having a Cavs vs. Jazz Finals.

I truly feel like he watches games why many of the blowhards just catch glimpses. He loves the NBA and I find myself agreeing with him maybe more than anyone that follows the NBA affliated with ESPN, TNT or what have you.

His adoration for LBJ this year has been borderline stalking...and he's right as all of us Cavs fans know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simmons has been pimpin LBJ and the Cavs this year pretty hard.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s quoted as having a Cavs vs. Jazz Finals.</p>
<p>I truly feel like he watches games why many of the blowhards just catch glimpses. He loves the NBA and I find myself agreeing with him maybe more than anyone that follows the NBA affliated with ESPN, TNT or what have you.</p>
<p>His adoration for LBJ this year has been borderline stalking&#8230;and he&#8217;s right as all of us Cavs fans know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laugh whenever I see Charley Rosen's name.  He also predicted LeBron would be one of the biggest busts to ever hit the NBA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laugh whenever I see Charley Rosen&#8217;s name.  He also predicted LeBron would be one of the biggest busts to ever hit the NBA.</p>
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		<title>By: kj</title>
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		<dc:creator>kj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, the BEST analysis of this trade comes from, somewhat remarkably, simmons over at ESPN.com:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080223

marvel at how he actually writes like he's see n the cavs play this year!

gasp as he mentions that an LBJ-led team needs consistently from it's parts!

thrill as he now thinks the cavs are the eastern favs this year over his beloved celtics and actually backs it up with a cogent argument!

again, best analysis yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, the BEST analysis of this trade comes from, somewhat remarkably, simmons over at ESPN.com:</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080223" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080223</a></p>
<p>marvel at how he actually writes like he&#8217;s see n the cavs play this year!</p>
<p>gasp as he mentions that an LBJ-led team needs consistently from it&#8217;s parts!</p>
<p>thrill as he now thinks the cavs are the eastern favs this year over his beloved celtics and actually backs it up with a cogent argument!</p>
<p>again, best analysis yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoops, why even say that? Why give him any importance? You're just as bad with that crap. The blog has been great the last few days even with the folks who disagree with the trade and Ferry in general. Their is no outright hostility and rudeness that this person constantly brings to the blog. As long as he is away, let's leave it at that. You bringing unnecessary attention to him is just stupid as he'll be the jackass he always is when he posts something next. Leave well enough alone and try to ignore it when the current coma crisis is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoops, why even say that? Why give him any importance? You&#8217;re just as bad with that crap. The blog has been great the last few days even with the folks who disagree with the trade and Ferry in general. Their is no outright hostility and rudeness that this person constantly brings to the blog. As long as he is away, let&#8217;s leave it at that. You bringing unnecessary attention to him is just stupid as he&#8217;ll be the jackass he always is when he posts something next. Leave well enough alone and try to ignore it when the current coma crisis is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2008/02/21/blockbuster-arrives/#comment-54100</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughts on the trade:

-  I am excited about the trade.  I like it.  Patrick McManamon likened it to shuffling chairs.  I'm not sure what that means, but I'll assume he was sleepy at the time.  I think this trade is like playing 5-card draw.  Ferry saw Hughes and Gooden as a pair of 6's with his Ace kicker in LeBron.  They were good enough to win a few hands, but not likely to bring home the big pot.  So he threw them in and picked up some unknowns, hoping that things work out. 

-  When it comes to bigs, the Cavs traded one-for-two.  That's the way it has to be if you want to have success in this league.

-  It's funny how the talents of incoming players get inflated.  Delonte West has spurts where he looks like a good player, but those were so rare that he found himself as the third-string point guard on a team that is 25 games under .500.  He has size, but does not have the speed to push the ball, or to stay in front of opposing guards defensively.  He wasn't Andre Miller before the Cavs acquired him, and he's not going to be Andre Miller now.  Adding West merely gives the Cavs a chance to compare him to Boobie Gibson, as both will become restricted free agents after the season.

-  All of the players the Cavs added are slow.  Wallace and Smith are old guys with a lot of miles on their legs, while Szerbiack makes Z look fleet of foot.  At least we know Ferry wasn't bowing to pressure from the media to turn the Cavs into a running team.

-  Ben Wallace's attitude will be a huge factor in the success of this trade.  If he is willing to accept his role as defender and rebounder, then things should be fine.  If he thinks he should be treated like a top-20 player, then he's going to be a distraction.  I'm also worried that when Wallace is on the floor, opposing teams will constantly double-team LeBron like they used to when Eric Snow was getting minutes.

-  Normally, I would expect veteran players to chafe at Mike Brown's "offense."  Guys that have been around the NBA know a bad offensive gameplan when they see it.  But all of these players are coming from teams that had terrible offenses as well.  Szerbiack and West were playing in Seattle, where the coaching staff decided to spend the entire season watching Kevin Durant shoot them to another top-3 lottery spot.  Wallace and Smith were playing in Scott Skiles' offense, which became Jim Boylan's offense, but never stopped sucking.  As a result, the new guys might be less inclined to constantly complain about their offensive role, as Larry Hughes was wont to do.

-  At the end of they day, I think Szerbiack will be the player that has the most impact on the Cavaliers.  If he can be a more efficient version of Hughes on the offensive end, that will be an upgrade.  And there's a chance that his huge expiring contract could be the linchpin in a big deal next year.  And I expect to see a lot of Wally jerseys sold between now and the playoffs.

-  I like Joe Smith, and thought he would be a nice addition a while ago.  But I didn't think the Bulls would move one of their few productive players to another team in the division.

-  At the end of the day though, I like this trade because it should renew the enthusiasm about the team.  All the talk about the need for a trade was more psychological than anything else.  The Cavs and their fans had gotten a little complacent, a little bored, and this big shake up could pay big dividends in the short term.  As of Sunday, the possibilities for the season are endless yet again.

Go Cavs.

Mike C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts on the trade:</p>
<p>-  I am excited about the trade.  I like it.  Patrick McManamon likened it to shuffling chairs.  I&#8217;m not sure what that means, but I&#8217;ll assume he was sleepy at the time.  I think this trade is like playing 5-card draw.  Ferry saw Hughes and Gooden as a pair of 6&#8217;s with his Ace kicker in LeBron.  They were good enough to win a few hands, but not likely to bring home the big pot.  So he threw them in and picked up some unknowns, hoping that things work out. </p>
<p>-  When it comes to bigs, the Cavs traded one-for-two.  That&#8217;s the way it has to be if you want to have success in this league.</p>
<p>-  It&#8217;s funny how the talents of incoming players get inflated.  Delonte West has spurts where he looks like a good player, but those were so rare that he found himself as the third-string point guard on a team that is 25 games under .500.  He has size, but does not have the speed to push the ball, or to stay in front of opposing guards defensively.  He wasn&#8217;t Andre Miller before the Cavs acquired him, and he&#8217;s not going to be Andre Miller now.  Adding West merely gives the Cavs a chance to compare him to Boobie Gibson, as both will become restricted free agents after the season.</p>
<p>-  All of the players the Cavs added are slow.  Wallace and Smith are old guys with a lot of miles on their legs, while Szerbiack makes Z look fleet of foot.  At least we know Ferry wasn&#8217;t bowing to pressure from the media to turn the Cavs into a running team.</p>
<p>-  Ben Wallace&#8217;s attitude will be a huge factor in the success of this trade.  If he is willing to accept his role as defender and rebounder, then things should be fine.  If he thinks he should be treated like a top-20 player, then he&#8217;s going to be a distraction.  I&#8217;m also worried that when Wallace is on the floor, opposing teams will constantly double-team LeBron like they used to when Eric Snow was getting minutes.</p>
<p>-  Normally, I would expect veteran players to chafe at Mike Brown&#8217;s &#8220;offense.&#8221;  Guys that have been around the NBA know a bad offensive gameplan when they see it.  But all of these players are coming from teams that had terrible offenses as well.  Szerbiack and West were playing in Seattle, where the coaching staff decided to spend the entire season watching Kevin Durant shoot them to another top-3 lottery spot.  Wallace and Smith were playing in Scott Skiles&#8217; offense, which became Jim Boylan&#8217;s offense, but never stopped sucking.  As a result, the new guys might be less inclined to constantly complain about their offensive role, as Larry Hughes was wont to do.</p>
<p>-  At the end of they day, I think Szerbiack will be the player that has the most impact on the Cavaliers.  If he can be a more efficient version of Hughes on the offensive end, that will be an upgrade.  And there&#8217;s a chance that his huge expiring contract could be the linchpin in a big deal next year.  And I expect to see a lot of Wally jerseys sold between now and the playoffs.</p>
<p>-  I like Joe Smith, and thought he would be a nice addition a while ago.  But I didn&#8217;t think the Bulls would move one of their few productive players to another team in the division.</p>
<p>-  At the end of the day though, I like this trade because it should renew the enthusiasm about the team.  All the talk about the need for a trade was more psychological than anything else.  The Cavs and their fans had gotten a little complacent, a little bored, and this big shake up could pay big dividends in the short term.  As of Sunday, the possibilities for the season are endless yet again.</p>
<p>Go Cavs.</p>
<p>Mike C.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Alan Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost of Alan Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan asked me to pass this message on since he's too embarrassed to speak today:

"The trade sucks, Danny Ferry sucks, Mike Brown sucks, Dan Gilbert sucks.  Just when Larry Hughes begins to show why the CAVS brought him in we ship him out.  People, where do I begin?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan asked me to pass this message on since he&#8217;s too embarrassed to speak today:</p>
<p>&#8220;The trade sucks, Danny Ferry sucks, Mike Brown sucks, Dan Gilbert sucks.  Just when Larry Hughes begins to show why the CAVS brought him in we ship him out.  People, where do I begin?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Time Bonus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Bonus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the trade, it seems like there are a lot of doubters outside of Cleveland.  Don't know why.  Danny Ferry and the Cavs followed all the rules when making a trade:
 
1. Upgrade your team.  Done.  Wallace can't score, but he gives the Cavs tough defense and rebounding and his numbers will go up playing for a contender.  Joe Smith can replace Gooden for the next year or two, and we weren't going to have Drew any longer than that anyway.  Wally can help the Cavs spread the floor which is what they've needed to do for three years now.  He's also big and can create his own shot.  West is a decent point guard who plays good defense, and he's still young and may improve/
 
2. Don't give up any core guys.  Done.  Gooden is an above average player but constantly misses defensive assignments.  He has one good game and then one bad, and often disappears for long stretches of time.  Hughes has always been a disappointment, can't stay healthy and was so banged up by the end of last year that he was useless in the finals.  Shannon Brown was never going to see the light of day here.  Newble and Marshall were bad contracts that provided little to nothing--they had to go.  Cedric Simmons...see Shannon Brown. 
 
3. Don't dig a financial hole for your team.  Avoided.  Wallace is a bad contract, but so was Hughes.  We're not on the hook for a long time with any of these guys and will still be able to look into free agency for 2008 and especially 2009.
 
I just don't see how anyone can say the Cavs did poorly with this deal.  I see this is as a slight to moderate upgrade of their current roster, which with Lebron, just might be enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the trade, it seems like there are a lot of doubters outside of Cleveland.  Don&#8217;t know why.  Danny Ferry and the Cavs followed all the rules when making a trade:</p>
<p>1. Upgrade your team.  Done.  Wallace can&#8217;t score, but he gives the Cavs tough defense and rebounding and his numbers will go up playing for a contender.  Joe Smith can replace Gooden for the next year or two, and we weren&#8217;t going to have Drew any longer than that anyway.  Wally can help the Cavs spread the floor which is what they&#8217;ve needed to do for three years now.  He&#8217;s also big and can create his own shot.  West is a decent point guard who plays good defense, and he&#8217;s still young and may improve/</p>
<p>2. Don&#8217;t give up any core guys.  Done.  Gooden is an above average player but constantly misses defensive assignments.  He has one good game and then one bad, and often disappears for long stretches of time.  Hughes has always been a disappointment, can&#8217;t stay healthy and was so banged up by the end of last year that he was useless in the finals.  Shannon Brown was never going to see the light of day here.  Newble and Marshall were bad contracts that provided little to nothing&#8211;they had to go.  Cedric Simmons&#8230;see Shannon Brown. </p>
<p>3. Don&#8217;t dig a financial hole for your team.  Avoided.  Wallace is a bad contract, but so was Hughes.  We&#8217;re not on the hook for a long time with any of these guys and will still be able to look into free agency for 2008 and especially 2009.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see how anyone can say the Cavs did poorly with this deal.  I see this is as a slight to moderate upgrade of their current roster, which with Lebron, just might be enough.</p>
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		<title>By: stan the fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan the fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be really great if we scored BRENT BARRY too!… he was cut by the sonics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be really great if we scored BRENT BARRY too!… he was cut by the sonics</p>
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