Maybe a blockbuster deal, LeBron has another triple-double, Gibson hurt again
Posted February 20th, 2008 by Brian Windhorst
Cavs 106, Pacers 97
–So this will surely disappoint some of you and also anger some of you, but I cannot yet say what player the Cavs are considering making a deal for. I have to protect sources. But I can tell you that I have talked to two different people in different organizations that have confirmed the talks are serious. I know you want more, but I just can’t give it to you at this point. I am not trying to build up ratings here, I am reporting what I can report. Just know that Danny Ferry is serious about trying to upgrade the roster. Whether or not it gets done though is up in the air. It’s 50/50 at best.
–Here is what I can tell you, it is a trade that would change the dynamic somewhat of how the Cavs play but not directly affect the way LeBron James plays. Also, if this deal goes through, it would potentially allow the Cavs to make another deal.
–Also, the Cavs are trying to get a first-round pick as part of the deal. Which is a sticking point, the other team doesn’t want to give it up. Perhaps this is because they are thinking of trading their first round pick this year or next year as part of another deal.
–After the game, the Cavs locker room was buzzing about the deadline. There are players who have heard their names in rumors and are convinced they are being traded. Some players even were half-jokingly saying goodbye to one another. Others who have been in rumors weren’t paying attention. But make no mistake, there is a strong belief in the Cavs locker room that they are going to do something. Maybe nothing will happen. A year ago on this night I was writing about how Danny was beating down the doors trying to get Mike Bibby and it didn’t happen. I am just trying to do my job.
–Now, here’s the news on Daniel Gibson. He got rolled up on by Travis Diener in the third quarter tonight. It looked very bad. There was lots of cussing on the Cavs bench as Boobie rolled around on the court in pain. Afterward the Cavs said it wasn’t as bad as it looked. But Boobie wouldn’t tell me if it was a high ankle sprain or a low ankle sprain. Of course, this is a major difference. I am not a doctor, but the nature of the injury made it look like it could be a high ankle sprain. When you get rolled up on, that injury is often a result. But the Cavs are thinking positively, so who am I so say different.
–Oh, yeah, the game. LeBron had another triple-double. He is the first player since Magic Johnson in 1987-88 to have two back-to-back triple-doubles in the same season. There’s a stat for you. He was huge in the fourth, not only scoring but also rebounding, setting up his teammates but also on defense. He was guarding Troy Murphy for awhile.
–The Cavs won this game their way, playing defense down the stretch. They controlled the tempo in the fourth, holding the Pacers to 5-of-16.
–The Cavs have won 8 of their last 10 games on the road.
Pregame
Starting lineups
Cavs: Larry Hughes, Ira Newble, LeBron James, Drew Gooden, Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Pacers: Travis Diener, Danny Granger, Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Jeff Foster
–Jaamal Tinsley (left knee) was a late scratch and Jermaine O’Neal (left knee as well) are both out. The Cavs have a talent advantage here tonight, which just isn’t always the case.
–This is a game of mental toughness. The Pacers want to play fast and turn it into a scoring fest. The Cavs can take advantage in transition but they cannot just stop moving the ball and turn it into a chuckfest. That’s what the Pacers want.
–The Cavs have beaten Indy five straight times and twice here. If they win tonight they will be above .500 on the road, something they haven’t been this late in the season in 15 years. Plus they have lost two straight. This is a game they should and need to win.
Halftime — Cavs 60, Pacers 54
–Folks, I have not watched a second of the first half as I pursue some hot trade rumors with the Cavs. They are being very active and are in talks over a blockbuster that has not been reported yet. It does not involve Mike Miller. More to come later.
Postgame
Stars
LeBron, 31 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists
Ilgauskas, 14 points, 17 rebounds
Hughes, 19 points
Granger, 30 points, eight rebounds
Murphy, 20 points, six rebounds
Quotes
Mike Brown: “What can I say? He’s the MVP. He’s the MVP this year. I don’t care how many games are left, or whatnot. This guy is terrific. He does everything out on the floor. He doesn’t just score, he doesn’t just get people easy shots, he doesn’t just rebound, he defends. He guarded shooting guards, small forwards and power forwards tonight.”
LeBron: “I’m going to get us in the best position to make plays in the fourth quarter, I attract so much attention that a lot of guys are going to get open looks. I’m going to do my thing no matter who’s in or who’s out.”
February 20th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
[...] bwindhorst wrote a fantastic post today on “Cavs at Pacers”Here’s ONLY a quick extractPregame. Starting lineups. Cavs: Larry Hughes, Ira Newble, LeBron James, Drew Gooden, Zydrunas Ilgauskas Pacers: Travis Diener, Danny Granger, Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Jeff Foster. –Jaamal Tinsley (left knee) was a late scratch and … [...]
February 20th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
i hope the cavs get mike miller and the pt guard, let miller play the 2 and let larry play the pt, or miller play the 3 lebron the pt and larry the 2 either way it gives us three good scores, well with larry im dreaming but his play of late deserve some praise, keep it up and we are a real threat in the playoffs with m&m as well as boobie and sasha i say sasha name with tongue in cheek coming off the bench.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
I hope the Cavs don’t trade beloved mascot Moondog before the trading deadline. Low cap number makes him easy to trade….but I can’t imagine he would get much in return.
Probably best just to leave him on the team.
-anonymous
February 20th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Brian…That’s neither here nor there…Man it better be good
February 20th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
your just gonna leave us hanging without giving us more specifics on a blockbuster trade??? at least give us some names! although i can guess that ira is part of it, as is shannon brown and/or cedric simmons. also probably drew gooden. KEEP US INFORMED!!! i didn’t want mike miller anyways
February 20th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Lets take bets on who Ferry is going after in this so-called blockbuster. I’ll propose a few possibilities.
1. Andre Miller
2. Mike Redd
3. Vince Carter or Richard Jefferson (please god no!)
4. Zach Randolph (Please god no!)
5. Ron Artest (I’m not that lucky)
February 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
BW! that is some WRONG ish right there…
Eddy Curry?
February 20th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
man BW, that is just wrong to leave us hanging like that!
February 20th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Crap! If Gibson is out for awhile, we are toast.
Anyways, Lebron is in “I don’t care” mode. Has been for the last 2 games. He doesn’t look like he’s into it….just going thru the motions.
February 20th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I wonder if Gibson’s injury put the kibosh on any trade taking place….
February 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
michael redd would be perfect, hed get 25 a night without breaking a sweat off lebron. think of all those wide open jumpers larry hughes misses (who would have to be involved to make the trade work). they do that they gotta make a side deal for a jarret jack, delonte west, or kyle lowry to have a starting point, gibson is not yet that unless bron’s just gonna take over point guard duties entirely. that happens we still have all those expirings this summer to get another stud
February 20th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Stop teasing us!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Vince Carter? Ben Gordon?
Michael Redd would be phenomenal.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
i hope you not just trying to get pub windy!! I hope your not just exaggerating!!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
not to get overexcited and speculate or anything
February 20th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
While Moondog is great, I heard that the Bucks were really interested in him. They’re willing to trade Redd for Larry and Moondog. They don’t really like Larry, but they’ll take his contract to build the team around Moondog.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
i’m hoping that whoever this blockbuster trade brings, that we can get rid of larry’s contract in the process (unlikely)
February 20th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Daniel Gibson apparently sprained his ankle tonight:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3255778
that’s no good at all.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
sorry for the late-breaking post ahahahha
the blog wasn’t updating for me.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Its got to be Carter!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
“Anyways, Lebron is in “I don’t care” mode. Has been for the last 2 games.”
I hope he keeps not caring - 31, 14 and 12 as I type…
February 20th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
yep going to be carter and is gonna suck big time
February 20th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
I just have to ask, JoeHoops, you think LBJ is in “dont care mode?” I suppose those two games you are referring to when he had triple doubles was not enough. He should have had quadruple-doubles if he were really trying. Sometimes us Cavs fans are spoiled by how good this guy is when we question his energy and enthusiasm AFTER he has two triple-doubles. As for who this “block-buster” trade could be, I’m leaning toward Redd. Miller isnt a “blockbuster” trade caliber player, and the 76ers seem content to keep him as they have been playing well as of late, I don’t see the Cavs taking on VC’s contract, Randolph is a possibility but I’m not sure he’s the type of player the Cavs like, and same goes with Artest. Bucks are going to have to trade Redd at some point, they obviously arent going to win with him. Cavs need a solid shooter. I just can’t fathom how we have enough pieces for Redd without a third team.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I think Ben Gordon is a possibility as well.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
whats the word?
February 20th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Somehow if there is a blockbuster trade going down, I don’t think Gibson could be involved. Think about it…If there is a blockbuster, obviously the Cavs are getting the superstar…meaning the team they are trading with is going into full-blown rebuilding mode. A guy like Gibson doesn’t really make sense for a team like that. Why would team X want a pure shooter who can’t create his own shot and is really a “final piece of the puzzle” type guy when they know they are going to have to overpay to keep him after this season. It just doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of sense.
My guess is that if there is really a blockbuster out there to be had, a team like Milwaukee is offering a superstar along with some horrendous long contracts and in exchange, taking back a bunch of our deals that expire after next year, just to get them out of cap jail a couple years earlier.
The whole thing makes me nervous. Please, Danny Ferry, prove me wrong about you.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
From NY i can tell u that it seems the knicks would give up most of thier team for moondog!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I bet Gibson will be out for a while (2-4 weeks)….just another addition to the injury list for the Cavs.
And I love how BW left us on a cliffhanger with a possible “blockbuster trade” that hasn’t been reported yet. Can anybody say Vince Carter?
In order for it to be a “blockbuster,” it has to involve star players…..and Mike Miller, Andre Miller, Zach Randolf, and Ron Artest aren’t start players.
It likely won’t be anybody from our division and it won’t be from one of the top teams in the league.
Therefore, it may be one of the following players: Elton Brand or Vince Carter.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Sources are telling me that Bob Sura is on his way!
February 20th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Whoa secret trade danglers!?!?!?!? Blockbuster??? I can’t wait to see this one, do Mike Miller or Earl Watson merit ‘blockbuster’ status? I think not, and so eagerly await - anyways if Snow leaves I’ll be happy as a two-peckered billy goat.
Yeah Lebron is not MVP… Good game by Z too
Nice to see Hughes playing well for a stretch.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Haha, it’s funny how people always suggest inter-divisional trades. It’s not gonna happen folks.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
i pray for andre miller and even ron artest…
February 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
“Anyways, Lebron is in “I don’t care” mode. Has been for the last 2 games. He doesn’t look like he’s into it….just going thru the motions.”
If going through the motions and not caring means getting back to back triple doubles, he needs to not care more often..
February 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
yeah I didn’t watch a second of the game because I was pursuing blockbuster trade deals on ESPN.com since my computer got fixed. Wow
Eric Snow and Damona Jones were moving to Dallas for D. George but his agent nixed the deal.
Snow for Artest, Jones for Mo Williams and Redd from Milwaukee and Larry Hughes for 4 first round picks from Miami. And the Matrix?
Well Sac gets a lock-down defender in Snow, the Bucks cut payroll and Miami loses 4 lotto picks
February 20th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
cnnsi just reported cavs in heavy talk with raptors for chris bosh. Hughes, both browns (shannon and devin), eric snow, and ilgauskas going the other way.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
c’mon brian!!!!! at least give us a taste!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I doubt it’ll be carter. He signed a big deal in the off-season and his knees are getting worse.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
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February 20th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Elmo where did you read that about Bosh? I just went to cnnsi.com and did not see that. There is no way the raptors get rid of bosh for anyone on the Cavs.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
we are getting kobe
February 20th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
i’m not seeing anything about bosh on cnnsi. link please.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I say it’s Kobe. FINALLY he gets out of L.A. like he’s wanted to all along.
(Wouldn’t that be the biggest double-cross heel move ever?)
February 20th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
snow for Kobe, LA gets a lock-down defender. Jones for Bosh, Raps get the best shooter in the Universe.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
bw’s most refreshed blog page ever?
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
bye bye Z
February 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I hate you
February 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
elmo, you can sniff my butthole.
and brian, that counts as a taste. let us know as soon as you can.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
And guess what, it’s probably for nothing (c’mon Ferry make me eat these words!)
February 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
I think that we are getting rid of Z.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
So let me get this straight, the Cavs are working on a deal that would significantly upgrade the roster AND they also think it warrants receiving a first round pick?
This makes me very nervous. This screams “our GM is crapping down his leg because he doesn’t want to be lambasted at for not being able to make a deal so he is about to take on some ATROCIOUS contracts.”
Now I’m seriously nervous. Someone please disconnect Danny’s phone!
February 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
You make me want to trip cripples and punch orphans.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I think the chris bosh comment was a joke…
Everyone and I mean EVERYONE is expendable on our team except LeBron and Varajeo (no trade clause)
Brian notes it will change the dynamics…bust be a point guard…
AND we want a 1st round. That scares me…
I think Ferry will hold tight and do what’s right.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Unbelievable..yes definitely most refreshed blog page ever…and to find out that we can’t find out who the rumors are about. Ah well..Brian when can we find out!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
If the Cavaliers are wanting a first round pick (and it’s the sticking point), then I’d have to believe that it’s something big.
Not Vince…he wouldn’t change our dynamics.
For some odd reason, I’m thinking that Big Z may be the one going out. Perhaps for a smaller, stonger BIG man, who can RUN?
Just a thought. What else qualifies US to get a first???
February 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Usually the team getting the draft pick is giving up the most talent. I’m not sure how the Cavs could give up more talent than the trading partner and it still qualify as a blockbuster. UNLESS, it’s a multi-team trade. But it seems fishy to me.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
hey ELMO,
why don’t u quit writting on blogs and become a comedian… why would u kid about something like that? ur a sick guy
February 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Its Baron Davis for Hughes, Gooden, Sh. Brown
February 20th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
World B. Free comes out of retirement, Cavs sign him to a contract. They trade him for the rights to Wilt Chamberlain. Since Wilt is dead, we get a first round draft pick thrown in.
The Cavs get a hall of famer, as well as a first rounder. The other team gets an expiring contract, and World B Free gets to sit on their bench for the rest of the season.
Sigh, another modern NBA trade.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Your killing me Brian.. The only deal to change the dynamic of how we play is to get rid of Z. Move to more of an uptempo style.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Okay…shoot me for thinking this…BUT, WHAT IF…..
The Cavaliers are trying to deal with NY… for Curry,Lee and Crawford?
THAT would definitely be Blockbuster.
New York Outgoing Players: Jamal Crawford, Renaldo Balkman, David Lee, Malik Rose, Eddy Curry
Cleveland Outgoing Players: Sasha Pavlovic, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Daniel Gibson, Dwayne Jones
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
It can’t be for a point guard cause that would change the way Lebron plays. I would think it would be for a shooting big man and we lose Gooden. That would change the way our team plays because we would not be as big on the front line, but not neccessarily change how Lebron plays.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Who in the name of Crash Mengelt is Travis Deiner?? He rolled Daniel Gibson’s ankle, bridged LeBron during a drive to the basket and wolverine clawed Damon Jones going for a rebound? I thought the league had long evolved past scrappy little guys from the Y coming into the game just to injure as many opposing players as possible. The Pacers dumped all their thugs for this??
February 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
A change of pace COULD be a guard, but it seems more likely that Z could be traded. Who could use a size upgrade that has a star player they’d be willing to trade to get it?
February 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
don’t tease us with a bosh trade. no way in hell
February 20th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
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February 20th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
O man - I don’t like this. Stick with the team you have, and trade the expiring contacts NEXT YEAR when you can get a SUPERSTAR in exchange!
If we end up with some horrendous contract for a minor upgrade, then we’re EFFED! Don’t DO IT DANNY!
February 20th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
I agree that it sounds like a deal involving Z.
February 20th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Very interesting. I’m thinking in order for us to be asking for a first round pick, and the other team actually considering it, the team must be a playoff team and not a lottery team. What lottery team is going to even consider trading away a lottery pick for someone on our roster, with the exception of Lebron? Because of this, I don’t think it would be Milwaukee or NJ. Maybe a team in the West that’s looking for a big man (Z) to compete with LA, Phoenix and SA that has a surplus of talented guards. Hmm… this is a puzzler.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:22 am
The stat about back to back triple doubles is just plain wrong. Jason Kidd had a back to back this very season on Jan. 4 and 5th.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:24 am
Andrei Kirilenko and 1st round pick for Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Ira Newble?
February 21st, 2008 at 12:25 am
I hope we’re looking at Redd or Artest, rather than Mike Miller or VC. The last thing we need is an over-the-hill star with a huge contract. Also, I can’t imagine trading Z — people commenting on this blog don’t appreciate how valuable he is. Z is a terrific offensive rebounder and has a great mid-range game. He’s probably got the most reliable mid-range shot on the team and he’s the only true big on the team.
Even Gooden is under-rated, though I think that he and Ira Newble’s expiring contract are our only true trade assets.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:33 am
heathmalk’s trade is horrible, why not just sign snow to a new six year contract? Like we wsnt ny trash
February 21st, 2008 at 12:43 am
Hughes for Odom??
February 21st, 2008 at 12:45 am
I’ve been thinking more about this - maybe it’s Z and Hughes and maybe Gibson to Denver for Iverson, some backup point guard and a 1st round pick. We’d get an all-star guard to go along with Lebron and that would change our team to more up-tempo and Denver would then have Hughes, Melo, Camby and Z together which would still provide them with the slasher in Hughes and Z would give them more scoring and rebounding from the 5 to compete with LA, Phoenix, Utah, Houston and SA.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:56 am
I dont think the trade will involve Carter bc that doesnt change the dynamic of the team.. all that does is upgrade Hughes.
The Iverson comment is preposterous. No way Denver gets rid of him.
I agree to an extent with Z being involved, bc that would change the dynamic because we could become a true up tempo team starting Andy at C.. the only problem i have with that is that i dont see how getting Z enables western teams to now “compete” with the other teams who go big men. Z is not known for defense.. and the west teams dont need offense.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:10 am
i got all excited for mike bibby during last years deadline (then again in the summer), and then nothing happened. so im not holding my breath for anything, especially with this roster. im willing to wait til the offseason anyways, a title might be too hard to get this year. i think getting out of the east would obviously be tough but doable, we have shown we can play with boston and we know we can take detroit. but the west looks just too damn good. phoenix, dallas, and the lakers are going all out for a title this year, and except for the lakers the other two don’t look like they will be as good next year cause they are just getting older and they are selling out their future. san antonio is also just getting older, although parker is great. if we just hold onto our hand and wait a year we can make a serious and legitimate push for a title. although if this deal is amazing than i retrack everything, lebron is god and we will win it all
February 21st, 2008 at 1:20 am
Ian Says:
February 21st, 2008 at 12:22 am
The stat about back to back triple doubles is just plain wrong. Jason Kidd had a back to back this very season on Jan. 4 and 5th.
He said “TWO back-to-back triple doubles,” meaning he had back to back triple doubles earlier in the year, and once more yesterday and today.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:36 am
Its gonna be Wade
February 21st, 2008 at 1:39 am
http://mvn.com/nba-cavaliers/2008/02/20/cavscast-cavs-on-the-verge-of-a-blockbuster-trade/
above is the link
February 20th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I just got off the phone with a league source and he is indicating to me that the Mavericks are the team that wants Z and they are willing to part with Josh Howard. However, the Mavs gave up two first-rounders to the Nets in the Kidd trade, so that’s where the question of draft picks is coming up. Dallas believes a big man like Z gives them size to match up with Gasol, Shaq, and Yao while JKidd just makes everybody better. That paired with MVP Dirk might push them over the top.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:23 am
The Mavericks look like the correct team. If you are awake right now, let me know what you think? Here are some questions…
Is Z the only one that would change the dynamic?
Are the Mavericks the team?
Where is this draft pick coming from?
What would we be getting in return?
What would we be giving up?
Ill be up til three praying these schmucks make a move
February 21st, 2008 at 3:46 am
You cannot do this and then not update. YOU Should be ashamed
February 21st, 2008 at 3:49 am
im up now, and i have no idea what this trade is going to be….ive been thinking about it and heres what i think….I don’t think Z is going to be traded, but if he is, there are really only a few options out there. For Z to be traded, it would have to be to a contender, because only a contending team would want to trade for Z. I think we can all agree on that. If you look at all of the teams out west, the only ones really in need of a big man are Dallas and Golden State. The only player that we would take from Dallas for Z is Josh Howard, and I HIGHLY doubt they would give up Howard for Z. B-Diddy seems like the only option on the Warriors, because Monta’s contract is too small, and the Cavs wouldn’t trade for Al Harrington. I don’t think the Nets consider themselves a contending team, and there is no way they would throw in what would probably be a pretty good 1st round pick, just to dump Carter, only to pay Z almost the same amount of $$$, minus 1 year. In the East, there are really only 4 other contenders. Boston has nothing we want, no way are we trading with Detroit, Orlando doesn’t need a center, and the only player on Toronto that has a contract to match Z is Bosh, so that is not happening. Therefore, I don’t think that Z is going to be traded.
February 21st, 2008 at 4:39 am
I noticed that BW said it would SOMEWHAT change the way we play. Trading Z would drastically change the way we play. I don’t think that the Cavs are going to make a move at all. BW, you should have watched the first half tonight instead of wasting time chasing false rumors. But, your site has kept me on my heels all night waiting for something to happen. I don’t want to get rid of Z either. He has been important to this team and organization, and i would like to see him retire as a Cavalier. Not many players in sports can say they started and ended with the same organization
February 21st, 2008 at 7:38 am
Hey Mark, I think BW meant it is the first back to back triple double as in consecutive nights. Kidd has a few trip dubs in a row but not in back to back games on consecutive nights.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:21 am
Andre Miller or Michael Redd, like we’ve been saying for months. If we could get both of them, I’d assume I’ve died and gone to heaven. Gooden’s numbers lookd glossy and nice, but he’s a non-factor late in games, he cant catch a pass with any zing on it, and Lebron looks like he wants to kill his goofy a$$ with his bare hands some nights. I see Gooden being the centerpiece of either deal, and guys like Shannon or Ira being the throw-ins. As far as the inter-divisional trading thing goes… while it is rare, it certainly isnt unheard of. Milwaukee sucks, they’re desperate, and therefore, they’re a perfect trade partner.
BW, waddaya say big guy?? New news?
February 21st, 2008 at 9:18 am
LOL about James looking like he wants to kill his “goofy a$$ with his bare nads some nights”. I agree completely. And it is more than merited.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:38 am
i reckon it could be tmac!
February 21st, 2008 at 11:10 am
i think that its doesn’t have nothing to do with carter…the President of NJ just said in espn that hes not trading away Vince Carter…hope we make a move that can get some help for the mvp lebron james…
February 21st, 2008 at 11:18 am
didn’t bob sura have like 3 triple doubles in a row for golden state like 6 years ago
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February 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Drew Gooden, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown and Cederic Simmons to Chicago for Ben Wallace.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
“Drew Gooden, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown and Cederic Simmons to Chicago for Ben Wallace.”
Riiiight. Because the Cavs want to make sure they have both the worst (Larry Hughes) and 2nd worst (Wallace) contracts in the entire NBA on their roster.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Damon Jones for the Matrix, Sean Merriman
February 21st, 2008 at 6:51 pm
maybe alan friend who got sick during the cavs run got sick again so he is unable to give hotdog head credit for this trade….come on alan speak or forever hold your peace….grace and peace billy
February 21st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Sheed 2 problems with ur post:1.Sean Merriman is a football player
2.Damon Jones for Shawn Marion…..Crazy
February 21st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
[...] is live-blogging today’s deadline dealings. His latest? That Cleveland deal Brian Windhorst teased earlier might be a three-teamer with Shawn Marion somehow ending up on the Cavaliers [...]
February 21st, 2008 at 10:39 pm
lets give brian credit: two sources - one for SEA, one for CHI. and another sharpshooter on the floor will hopefully open up the middle for lebron to drive, but he’ll still kick to the open guy. and lebron won’t have to worry about gooden brain farting on defense.
February 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 am
[...] might not have Ira Newble for long. Brian Windhorst first reported that the Cavs could be in on a pretty big deal, and a wee bit of message board readin’ led me [...]