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		<title>By: Local Jobs Guide</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2007/10/17/breakdown-of-china-game-1/#comment-14005</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Jobs Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh...yeah, Jackson did sign with someone, Brian.  If you bothered reading what I originally wrote, he signed a one-year contract in Europe on the same day.  If Ferry had bothered to sign Jackson, and if he hadn't pissed off Luis Scola's agent prior to that, then he wouldn't have felt compelled to make a corrupt fool of himself by trekking around the globe under the cover of darkness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;yeah, Jackson did sign with someone, Brian.  If you bothered reading what I originally wrote, he signed a one-year contract in Europe on the same day.  If Ferry had bothered to sign Jackson, and if he hadn&#8217;t pissed off Luis Scola&#8217;s agent prior to that, then he wouldn&#8217;t have felt compelled to make a corrupt fool of himself by trekking around the globe under the cover of darkness.</p>
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		<title>By: brianmccoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianmccoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey einstein, I was making a comparison statement, I know those are big words for ya but it was a what if scenario, you are so clueless it is funny.  By the way I haven't been watching lately, has your assassin Marc Jackson signed with anyone yet?  Didn't think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey einstein, I was making a comparison statement, I know those are big words for ya but it was a what if scenario, you are so clueless it is funny.  By the way I haven&#8217;t been watching lately, has your assassin Marc Jackson signed with anyone yet?  Didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I just re-read your first post ... Ferry ran into Varejao at the airport???  For God's sakes, the guy traveled literally to the other end of the world on a top-secret surprise visit, intentionally leaving reporters out of the loop so neither the agent, nor Varejao nor anybody else would know!!!  If not for Vecsey's sources, the local reporters would have likely been instructed by Ferry to pretend that the meeting never even happened!  What, do you think the two of them merely coincidentally bumped into each other while they happened to be ordering a danish at the same Cinnabon in the upper level of the Hopkins terminal?  Jeesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I just re-read your first post &#8230; Ferry ran into Varejao at the airport???  For God&#8217;s sakes, the guy traveled literally to the other end of the world on a top-secret surprise visit, intentionally leaving reporters out of the loop so neither the agent, nor Varejao nor anybody else would know!!!  If not for Vecsey&#8217;s sources, the local reporters would have likely been instructed by Ferry to pretend that the meeting never even happened!  What, do you think the two of them merely coincidentally bumped into each other while they happened to be ordering a danish at the same Cinnabon in the upper level of the Hopkins terminal?  Jeesh.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, sinking to carp-level doesn't make it right.  I couldn't imagine real professionals like Jerry West and Wayne Embry ever even CONSIDER pulling that kind of underhanded crap.  It stinks to high heaven.  That's not how business works.  Or is supposed to work.  

There is nothing wrong with what the agent is doing.  Indeed, there is nothing in the CBA that says the qualifying offer must be accepted.  It's a giant loophole that will need to be filled.  So I don't see your point in the least.

I thought the mantra was the Cavaliers were all about doing it the San Antonio professional way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, sinking to carp-level doesn&#8217;t make it right.  I couldn&#8217;t imagine real professionals like Jerry West and Wayne Embry ever even CONSIDER pulling that kind of underhanded crap.  It stinks to high heaven.  That&#8217;s not how business works.  Or is supposed to work.  </p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with what the agent is doing.  Indeed, there is nothing in the CBA that says the qualifying offer must be accepted.  It&#8217;s a giant loophole that will need to be filled.  So I don&#8217;t see your point in the least.</p>
<p>I thought the mantra was the Cavaliers were all about doing it the San Antonio professional way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alan what protocol is the agent following telling his boy to not sign the 1 year tender and hold out bargaining in good faith all right.  He is trying to get the best for his boy and Ferry is trying to get his best for the club, that is how negotiations work.  Good faith or bad faith, there is no more in professional sports, need we revisit Boozer where your boy Pax got burned by good faith barganing Alan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan what protocol is the agent following telling his boy to not sign the 1 year tender and hold out bargaining in good faith all right.  He is trying to get the best for his boy and Ferry is trying to get his best for the club, that is how negotiations work.  Good faith or bad faith, there is no more in professional sports, need we revisit Boozer where your boy Pax got burned by good faith barganing Alan.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan are you serious, unethical treatment?  What are you smoking, a GM going to talk to a player is unethical, so if Ferry runs in to Varejao at the airport they are supposed to go separate ways, you are a moroon.  Circumvent the agent, the last time I checked Alan, an agent works for the player not the other way around, so how is that unethical, you need to get out of your basement once and a while einstein.  Continue to show your basketball IQ Alan, impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan are you serious, unethical treatment?  What are you smoking, a GM going to talk to a player is unethical, so if Ferry runs in to Varejao at the airport they are supposed to go separate ways, you are a moroon.  Circumvent the agent, the last time I checked Alan, an agent works for the player not the other way around, so how is that unethical, you need to get out of your basement once and a while einstein.  Continue to show your basketball IQ Alan, impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

I have never been an agent for an NBA basketball player but I have acted as an agent in contract negotiations many times for clients. I can tell you first hand that conduct similar to Ferry's is not unheard of.  It could be considered unprofessional by some old-schoolers but would not be considered unethical by any (except, maybe, Yakuza). At the end of the day, "professional" or not, Ferry has to get the job done. This move could turn out OK for Ferry if it ends up softening Andy to the point that he instructs his agent to make a deal. These types of "reach-out", "peace-talk" maneuvers pay dividends down the road. 

I completely respect Ferry's move here with Pavs and Andy (stonewalling). Make them blink first. I don't think either of these guys are worth the kind of money they want. Neither are they worth it to the Cavs. Also, their options are now very limited here. I think Brown/Damon Jones and Simmons/a warm body/Dwayne Jones can fill 80-90% of Pavs' and Andy's shoes at a fraction of the incremental cost.

By the way, has anyone mentioned the possibility of the Players Union getting involved here or even the Commish's office? I can't believe that either group is real happy with the whole "uncharted waters" aspect of this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I have never been an agent for an NBA basketball player but I have acted as an agent in contract negotiations many times for clients. I can tell you first hand that conduct similar to Ferry&#8217;s is not unheard of.  It could be considered unprofessional by some old-schoolers but would not be considered unethical by any (except, maybe, Yakuza). At the end of the day, &#8220;professional&#8221; or not, Ferry has to get the job done. This move could turn out OK for Ferry if it ends up softening Andy to the point that he instructs his agent to make a deal. These types of &#8220;reach-out&#8221;, &#8220;peace-talk&#8221; maneuvers pay dividends down the road. </p>
<p>I completely respect Ferry&#8217;s move here with Pavs and Andy (stonewalling). Make them blink first. I don&#8217;t think either of these guys are worth the kind of money they want. Neither are they worth it to the Cavs. Also, their options are now very limited here. I think Brown/Damon Jones and Simmons/a warm body/Dwayne Jones can fill 80-90% of Pavs&#8217; and Andy&#8217;s shoes at a fraction of the incremental cost.</p>
<p>By the way, has anyone mentioned the possibility of the Players Union getting involved here or even the Commish&#8217;s office? I can&#8217;t believe that either group is real happy with the whole &#8220;uncharted waters&#8221; aspect of this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it was all misreported, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it was all misreported, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, ease up on this one.  Louis Scola can't play, unless you want another 13th man on the roster.  Stiff would be too kinda a word for Mr. Scola my friend.  Knocking Danny on this is beyond ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, ease up on this one.  Louis Scola can&#8217;t play, unless you want another 13th man on the roster.  Stiff would be too kinda a word for Mr. Scola my friend.  Knocking Danny on this is beyond ludicrous.</p>
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