–There is a report in today’s Washington Post that says the Cavs are considering offering a contract to Wizards restricted free agent prospect Andray Blatche. Blatche is very young (20), 6-foot-11, and has lots of talent. He’s spent most of his first two years in the league sitting and watching, but his future is pretty bright. What I’m sure the Cavs like about him, whether they truly intend to offer him or not, is that he appears to be offensively gifted, especially as a shooter. I wrote a story about Blatche and how his rookie season was marred by a shooting for ESPN.com last summer. You can read it here (I think you need Insider, though).
While I think the Wizards would probably match just about any offer Blatche gets — the Post said the Nets and Cavs may offer a five-year deals starting at around $4 million — I think what you are seeing here is the Cavs working on contingency plans with Anderson Varejao. I think you’ll hear more about it, too. By the way, as food for thought, the Wizards are believed to be one of the teams that would have interest in Varejao. So let your mind wander with all this on the table. Especially considering the Wizards are expected to bring last year’s first-round pick, Oleksiy Pecherov, over from Europe this season. Pecherov, who I was impressed with at summer league last year, is a lot like Blatche. Not quite as athletic, but he’s young, very big (6-10) and is a better shooter. Perhaps there isn’t room for both Blatche and Pecherov, but there surely is room for Varejao in Washington. We’ll see.
–Apparently New York Post rumor man Peter Vecsey has been saying the Cavs may go after Rashard Lewis. It would take a sign-and-trade with the Seattle Sonics. I will not rule anything out, because as I said before, expect the Cavs to be aggressive in trying to get offensive talent this summer. Also, looking at guys like Blatche and Lewis would follow the way the Cavs have built their team. They want "long" players who can play multiple positions. Again, this is why Earl Boykins is a long shot to me.
Whether or not this is a valid rumor or not, it reminds us of a point. Most NBA teams right now aren’t in spending mode. Contracts are getting shorter by average and fewer teams want to use all of their mid-level exceptions. The Cavs, however, seem like they are willing to spend and that gives them a massive advantage. In the previous blog, I explained how they can creatively reduce other teams’ payrolls with their current roster.
In the past, GM Danny Ferry has used owner Dan Gilbert’s checkbook to make cap-reducing deals with Billy King, who is a close friend. Helping King get the 76ers under the luxury tax line two years ago got the Cavs Daniel Gibson when they made a cap-absorbing deal for a draft pick at the deadline. Well, two teams looking to reduce costs are the Suns and Sonics. They both have new general managers (Sam Presti and Steve Kerr, respectively) and Ferry won NBA title rings with both of them and has good relations with each. Also, both are in the other conference, making a big deal more likely. So when it comes to Lewis or Shawn Marion rumors or any other Sonics or Suns cash-dumping moves, expect that the Cavs could be very much involved.
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Young players tend to get better, old players tend to get worse. It isn’t a difficult concept.
Gooden, Varejao, Pavlovic, Gibson, Brown. Each of those four will improve, the only question is how much. Gibson, in particular, is worthy of note, because he was so much younger (at 20) than the people against whom he was playing last year.
In each of those cases, we’re talking about parts. Still, how much do they need to improve (paired with LBJ’s continued improvement) for this team to be better? Not too much.
The Cavs won 50 games in a season in which they essentially replaced aging players Damon Jones, Eric Snow, and Donyell Marshall with younger, (as it developed, better) players. On that basis alone, I would expect the Cavs to improve record-wise next year.
I love the scene in Predator where Mike Brown is ostensibly shaving, but he’s so pre-occupied thinking about his impending evisceration by the Predator that he gouges the razor into his cheek, making him bleed his own blood. And why did the Indian guy think he could take the Predator one on one with only a machete, while balanced precariously upon a log spanning a gorge?
Varejao is gone. The Rockets are going to throw ridiculous money at him, at he isn’t worth matching it. Bench guys who flop, panic in crunch time, have no offensive game to speak of and are the rage of all the area teenage girls shouldn’t be making more money than your starting power forward. So let him go. Or work a sign and trade for a draft pick at least.
I’m worried about 2007-08 season. The roster isn’t going to be much different. Unless Lebron shows up at camp with the ghost of Drazen Petrovic inhabiting his massive torso, we’re in trouble. Watch the Heat. Watch the Bulls. I’m afraid we’ll simply have to suck it up and wait for all these horrible contracts to expire and go for broke in 2009.
This Munch guy on WKNR is un-freaking-believable. He actually centered an entire show around the possibility of getting KG or Kobe in here. And he was serious. He thinks it can happen. Guys kept calling him, telling him how ridiulous and sophomoric he was being, and he’d hang up on them. A complete delusional idiot. God I miss Mac, Jurko, and Harry in Chicago.
any chance to get Iguodala and Al Jefferson?
LOL! Great posts Doc. I really did laugh out loud. And Munch is a complete moron, no doubt about that.
I hate to say it, but I agree with Alan. We will still be a very good team, thanks to James and a very good team defense, but I will be shocked if we add anyone of significance. And this premature Boobie lovefest is just weird. Are we that hard up for ANYONE to show promise? At least for me, I’ll need much more than a handful of good games and a handful of terrible games to get excited. Can he shoot? It seems so. But can he shoot consistently? The jury is still out.
I never was that excited about Shannon Brown. Another slasher with a suspect outside game? We already have the best guy like that in the league in James. We kind of already had that in Hughes, until he proved to be a terrible jump shooter who can’t, or won’t, even slash anymore. As a fan, my hope is that Shannon can actually consistently make jump shots, but I’m not so sure. This team’s problem is not getting open jump shots. Thanks to James, those are plentiful. The problem is making them.
I love the new guys in here that try to wrap their logical minds around The artist formerly known as Alan Tucker. Always good for a laugh. I’m gonna defend Ferry a little bit here: You guys are all hypocrites. You mock LeBron because of his ego and his global Icon status, but at the same time you rip apart a professional who worked hard day in and day out for as a player and now as a GM. Joe Tait’s favorite player of all time was Danny Ferry because of how hard he struggled to fit in the NBA. As far as I know, only one rookie this year made a deep impact (can’t wait for the comet jokes from you HOOLIGANS) in the playoffs. Who drafted Gibson? Was it you Tucker? The kid made Chauncey look like a little girl. What other rookies made ANY impact in the playoffs this year? Tyrus Thomas laid an Egg. Garbajosa and Barnagni lost to the Nets with Home Court…let’s see Paul Milsap was money for 5 points a game…Marcus Williams stepped in nicely for Jason Kidd. His -20 point On court off court differential is misleading…oh wait no it’s not. Cavs were 11 points better per game with Boobie on the court in the playoffs. No other rookie came remotely close to that.
Don’t make excuses. Ferry drafted Gibson. He made a good pick. Ferry’s not a bad guy. He wants this team to win, and he’s smart enough to put a good team together. Have some faith.
On that note – Tucker’s comment about Illgauskas is correct. In a related story, they’re making snow angels in hell right now. But seriously, this team is not built for Illgauskas’s style of play. He’s too slow to defend the pick and roll and he’s not a good low-post scorer anymore. The spurs REALLY made him look bad. The Cavs need a more agile center. That’s why I think they need to keep Varajeo. He’s starting to play some pretty good defense down low too.
So Gibson is the answer, Tom? I’ll make the assumption that I’m the “new guy” since I agreed in part with Tucker. You’re already completely sold on Gibson? I’m not. Just a difference of opinion. I’m not saying he sucks or is NOT an answer, but he had too little time to really prove anything, imo.
Gibson is the answer at one of the guard spots – yes.
EMPHATIC YES. If things go well he will be playing with LeBron for years to come.
You get a solid point guard who can make a good entry pass and add Gibson/Pavlovic LeBron Gooden Varajeo and that is a team that can compete with anyone – even in the West.
I personally think the Cavs need to get some cheaps pieces with raw skill sets and develop them. Half of the spurs team is full of althetic no – name foreign players that they developed into champions.
You fixed Sasha’s defense – now teach him to FINISH at the basket. Get him to stop leaving his feet so early. Develop Shannon Brown. THe guy is pure athleticism. All he wants to do is dunk on people. Let him go wild.
I like Pavs, Gibson, and Brown on this team.
I have an innovative suggestion that nobody has thought of, including the “Cavaliers braintrust” (much like “jumbo shrimp,” a ridiculously wild contradiction in terms).
Unload Varejao in a sign and trade, unload Gooden for whoever they can get, unload the smaller deadwood expiring contracts that can possibly be dumped. Then make James the power forward through at least the all-star break. Use the new available cap space to rent somebody for after the all-star break, when there’s always guys available on the market. Then barter the first set of larger expiring contracts in the summer of 2008.
Face it, this is not a good team. The Eastern Conference does wonders for appearance. Even Hillary Clinton would look hot in a room full of nuns, don’t you think?
And if Ferry is going to butter himself up with Coppertone and have a quaint picnic lunch with a point guard’s agent, then aim high for Mo Williams, don’t shoot low for Steve Blake.
Tom, Gibson has proven absolutely nothing. Frankly, I do not understand why some people are all atwitter about the kid. He had a few good games, and suddenly he’s destined for the Hall of Fame. He may end up having a decent career, but unless he learns how to be a point guard, I can’t see him as anything more than Damon Jones with thinner lips. Somebody who will always find a place on a team’s chair, if only because he has one singular skill that somebody needs.
Damon Jones doesn’t play defense and Damon Jones doesn’t attack the basket. Damon Jones has no mid-range game.
Very bad comparison in my opinion.
Whatever. From what I’ve seen from him so far, Gibson has a three-point shot, not much else. If a few decent playoff games is what it takes to be a champion in your eyes, then please build Gerald Henderson a monument. I can barely use Play-Doh, let alone make a statue.
Boatshoes leaves his laces undone, trips, and falls on top of the gold nugget that is Daniel Gibson and you want to give him Executive of the Year? If he just knew Gibson was such a player, then why didn’t he jump on him in the first round?
And that revisionist history about his playing career, where he “worked so hard to fit in” is completely bogus. He was a freaking All-American at Duke! The Cavs traded one of the best young guards in the league at the time, straight up, to get him. And he flopped miserably. As a lottery pick. He struggled to “fit in” because he sucked. If you want to consider hoisting wide open spot-up threes as a white version of Donyell Marshall on the Spurs back in the day as his career redemption, then maybe we should be giving Ian Ziering an Emmy for resurrecting his career on Dancing with the Stars.
doc, if you haven’t read it yet, check out Terry Pluto’s Sunday column, which was posted early. Holy cow. I seriously think it may be time for Terry to take one of those Beacon Journal early retirement packages. It’s really gotten out of hand. If I didn’t know he was such a devoutly religious guy, and that homosexuality is a sin rivaling adultery and murder, I’d swear that Terry and Ferry are a secret item.
Oh, and what people forget is Cleveland also gave up a draft pick which turned into Loy Vaught, an excellent power forward until he got hurt. Why did you bring that up again? Are you some kind of a sadist? What are you trying to accomplish? Would you also remind adult victims of child abuse of what they have to do through??? Why are you opening wounds, man???
See, I couldn’t even write a correct sentence about child abuse, you got me so upset.
People are excited about Gibson because he’s already the team’s best shooter and quickest defender.
At some point, someone decreed that he wouldn’t ever be a true point guard (whatever that is). I don’t buy it. Gibson works hard and learns. For example, at the beginning of the season, he couldn’t make plays driving to the rim–he’d force up a shot no matter what. By season’s end, he was making very nice plays on drives. He already runs fast breaks well too.
I’d be curious to see how his rookie year compares to Price’s, or Brandon’s. Gibson’s younger than those guys were as rookies, he plays on a team that went further in the playoffs, and he probably did just as well statistically, if not better.
larry, is there really a difference if a kid is 21 years old or 22 years old? I’m not sure if that’s relevant.
But I do agree that he’s the best option they’ve got, and that overpaying for some yutz like Steve Blake won’t accomplish anything except take away from available cap space in the summer of ‘08. But I think if somebody like Mo Williams can be had, I’d say bye-bye Boobie in a heartbeat. For the same reason that Bryant got pissed when the Lakers drafted Bynum, they don’t have the luxury of time for Gibson to learn a new position. Hell, even if you look at the games he was playing 35 minutes, he still was getting two assists. Granted, that’s one more than Ilgauskas, but that’s still less that a starting point guard should have.
Although, now that I stop and think about it, Gibson will end up getting starter’s minutes regardless if he’s playing point. This discussion is fairly moot. Hughes is eventually going to get hurt, nobody needs a crystal ball to know that, and Bill Duke will have no other viable option but to give Gibson the minutes.
Too bad there’s nobody out there willing to give Ferry a second-round or low first-round pick for Ilgauskas. Or maybe there is, but we’ll never know.
Ahhhhhh, it is so refreshing to see our know-it-all friend Alan Tucker back on here! Woot. He was MIA when the Cavs were on a roll and dominating the Pistons, but now he has slithered back out of his hole just in time to tell us everything that is wrong with our Cavs and how they have no chance of ever winnning anything.
Welcome back Mr. Tucker. ROFL!!!
Why are you posting, JoeHoops? You’ve broken your promise. Twice. When are you going to vow never to post again? That will make three. Just don’t cry wolf, you’ve read the story, I hope.
But since you raised my MIA, I had some family health issues to attend to. Seemed more important than basketball. But now I’m back and very eager to talk about Larry Hughes’ extremely painful Planters Peanutsitis, or whatever it is.
JoeHoops, if you can take your mind off of me for a moment, take a look at Elwood and tell me he doesn’t look like a thirsty dehydrated child of Damon Jones and Sam Cassell.
http://video.ap.org/v/Legacy.aspx?g=ca37ab08-03f7-4e32-8352-99079581d04a&f=ohakr&fg=copy
“Boatshoes leaves his laces undone, trips, and falls on top of the gold nugget that is Daniel Gibson and you want to give him Executive of the Year? If he just knew Gibson was such a player, then why didn’t he jump on him in the first round?”
Doc, you’re better than that. If the Patriots knew Brady was that good, why didn’t they trade up to draft him number one in the whole draft, not wait until the sixth round? Why didn’t the Spurs move up in the draft to take Ginobili and Parker?
So now we’re upset that a player available in the mid-second round wasn’t taken higher? That’s a pretty difficult standard.
It is interesting that you criticize Ferry for making unwise financial investments in Ilgauskas et. al. in one breath, but then you criticize him for a frugal draft pick in the next.
You may not like Ferry, but the one thing for which you cannot criticize him is his draft history. He’s had one draft, and it looks pretty good. He drafted low, and came away with at least one productive player.
“Damon Jones doesn’t play defense and Damon Jones doesn’t attack the basket. Damon Jones has no mid-range game. Very bad comparison in my opinion.”
Good god! Is this the same Tom that last month proclaimed that Gibson and Jones were essentially “the same player,” except you would “give the edge to Jones” because of his experience?
You’ve certainly done a 180.
“Oh, and what people forget is Cleveland also gave up a draft pick which turned into Loy Vaught, an excellent power forward until he got hurt.”
So, Alan, if Loy Vaught was “an excellent power forward” as you posted above, then you should be thrilled with Gooden’s and Varejao’s performances. Varejao has been approximately the same player statictically as Vaught through the same age, and Gooden has been clearly superior. Oh, and Vaught did that playing for inept teams, so you have to figure there was a greater chance at establishing himself.
I mention this because I don’t hear a lot of love for those two players from you, but when a player from another team posts similar or worse numbers, you label him as “excellent.” By extension, doesn’t this also mean the Varejao and Gooden are also excellent? That would mean the Cavs had at least three excellent players on their team this year, yes?
There’s nothing personal in this observation, but it strikes me that, perhaps, you value in other players what you disparage in the Cavs.
Larry,
It was an interesting question, so I looked it up. In the “guard” stats, here’s Price, Brandon, and Gibson (with two other Cavs guard draftees — Kevin Johnson and Brevin Knight — thrown in as well for comparison.
FYI — M (minutes per game); P (points); Sh (Shots); FG (FG % adjusted for three pointers); A (assists per game); T (turnovers per game); and Ag (age).
M P FG Sh A T Ag
KJ 24 9.2 46 7.5 5.5 1.8 21
TB 19.6 7.4 42 7.3 3.9 1.7 21
MP 18.2 6.9 44 6.3 3.0 1.6 22
BK 31 9.0 44 7.4 8.2 2.4 22
DG 16.5 4.6 54 3.9 1.0 .7 20
It appears Alan is right, in that Gibson appears to be less of a point guard than those players. He was the best shooter of those guys, but he took fewer shots.
Also, he had the fewest steals of any of those guys, even when adjusted for minutes. Finally, he was the only one on that list who didn’t make at least 80% of his free throws. Not sure what to make of that, since he went 38-43 in the playoffs. (He actually shot more free throws in the playoffs than he did all season!) Playoffs and regular season combined, he was at 80% of his free throws.
That last post was aligned when I typed it in, but it got misaligned in the post. Sorry it is so tough to read.
Corrected (I hope)!
Pl M P FG Sh A T Ag
KJ 24.0 9.2 46 7.5 5.5 1.8 21
TB 19.6 7.4 42 7.3 3.9 1.7 21
MP 18.2 6.9 44 6.3 3.0 1.6 22
BK 31.0 9.0 44 7.4 8.2 2.4 22
DG 16.5 4.6 54 3.9 1.0 0.7 20
My ? is why can’t the cavs just cut Z or marshall eat the contract and get a center or 2nd string power forward from the cba or even a walk on from the undrated players, I cannot give you a name right now but there are good undrafted players in the nba. what about the guy with the funny name that the cavs had in camp last year, but now he is with golden state. the thing is cut one of the guys, true you still have to pay them, but get a player who could play and it will be cheap for a couple of years.
3rd time’s a charm?
Play Min Pts FG% Sh Ast TO Ag
KJ 24.0 9.2 46 7.5 5.5 1.8 21
TB 19.6 7.4 42 7.3 3.9 1.7 21
MP 18.2 6.9 44 6.3 3.0 1.6 22
BK 31.0 9.0 44 7.4 8.2 2.4 22
DG 16.5 4.6 54 3.9 1.0 0.7 20
4th try
Pla Min Pts FG Sh As TO Ag
KJ 24.0 9.2 46 7.5 5.5 1.8 21
TB 19.6 7.4 42 7.3 3.9 1.7 21
MP 18.2 6.9 44 6.3 3.0 1.6 22
BK 31.0 9.0 44 7.4 8.2 2.4 22
DG 16.5 4.6 54 3.9 1.0 0.7 20
Oh if any one wants to see Lebron in person he will be at the Glenville recreation center,(thats in the ghetto) filming a music video. Just thought inquiry minds or Lebron fans wanted to know.
ONly now, whats up with the triple post, are you a trinity?
Wow, talk about a non sequitur. doc is talking about an absolutely ridiculous one-sided trade from 1989, and you’re inexplicably talking about Gooden and Varejao in relation to Loy Vaught, a dude who made that Ferry trade and his subsequent 10-year contract multiple times more nauseating than it already was. Never mind Harper, Vaught for Ferry straight-up would have been a horrific trade in itself. Hell, never mind Harper and Vaught, a hamper full of my niece’s dirty diapers in exchange for Ferry would have been an astonishingly terrible trade.
But since you brought it up, a young Loy Vaught, minus the bad back, would have looked rather good on the 2007-2008 Cavs. More muscle and toughness in that guy’s big toe than in Gooden’s and Varejao’s entire bodies combined. Coach Bill Duke (I prefer “Coach D”) could have played him at center, too, thereby allowing Ferry The Sequel to ship Z to Siberia via UPS. Giving a whole new meaning to the catch phrase, “What can Brown do for you?”
James is going to be in the ‘hood making a music video? Gosh, that’s just peachy. Too bad he’s reluctant to use his waking hours to practice his free throws. What’s he doing, a cover of the Beastie Boys’ “No Sleep ‘Til Brooklyn?”
Thanks for the stats, Kevin.
Gibson’s assist totals are terrible, which I knew. I still think they can be partly attributed to the role he was asked to play, lining up at the three point line so much, and to playing with LeBron.
Maybe the Cavs are being smart to bring Gibson along slowly, but I’m afraid they’re giving him too low a ceiling, if they’re thinking about going after someone like Blake.
I don’t see why Gibson can’t at least play alongside another guard who can handle the ball a little. LeBron’s going to be making most of the plays in any case.
Andress-
I’m much better than you think. Listen, every team takes flyers on guys in the latter stages of drafts. Some pan out, some don’t. Scott Pioli isn’t considered one of the top GM’s in the NFL because of the Tom Brady pick. It’s the way he signs free agents, manages the cap, and his overall wise drafts. Everybody gets lucky. Even Butch Davis drafted Sean Jones. You honestly think that Mickey loomis of the Saints won executive of the year because MArques Colston went from seventh round prayer to all-pro? Give me a break.
So Boatshoes makes a good pick in the second round. I’ll grant you that. But no one makes their reputation in the NBA on the percentage of second rounders who turn out to be decent (and that’s really all we can say about gibson now). He’s squandered money, signed a bunch of guys who suck to ridiculous contracts, and we have no flexibility to do anything about it for another year. http://www.mauisurfcompany.com/boatshoes/buoydb.jpg
Paul Millsap was highway robbery for the 47th pick. Gibson may turn out to be a decent player, but Millsap is eventually going to get a max free agent contract. You read it here first. That guy is going to be a beast. Give him starter’s minutes, I guarantee he would lead the league in rebounding. Down the road, Utah will have a decision to make. In a perfect world, Cleveland would return the Boozer favor.
Larry,
I agree with you on Gibson. I was impressed in the playoffs at his ability to penetrate off the dribble, and he’s the quickest player on the Cavs. I love his future. But I’m pretty sure he isn’t a pure point. Yet, anyway.
He has a role on this team, and I’d bet it will involve a pretty big jump in minutes and production next year.
wow. again. tucker just *happened* to be righht on his prediction EVEN THOUGH he didn’t make one for the DET/CLE series. genius!
and glad to hear the “health” issue is cleared up. sure is curious it happened as the cavs were winning and ended when the cavs were losing. but, i’m sure we’re just be *cynical*, right? and god knows, if it’s one thing you hate ( and for that matter, *never* practice ), it is cynicism.
Tom, I think we just disagree. Gibson, showed some promise and actually played great for a few games. But he also disappeared and played like shyt for a few games. As a fan, I am cautiously optimistic that he can indeed help James and this team, but as of right now, I am just seeing him POTENTIALLY as a BJ Armstrong type player. NOT an all star. I think there is not enough information to make a judgement on whether he will be a good to great player or not. I hope you’re right.
I can remember one game in the finals–his first start–when Gibson played very poorly (or to be more precise, shot very poorly). Other than that, he played as well as anyone on the team against the Spurs.
Of course Gibson’s a little inconsistent as a rookie. I don’t know if he’ll be an all star or anything like that, but from where I sit, the need for a point guard is no greater than the need for a center, a power forward and a big scoring guard.
Why don’t we just trade Lebron with Kobe? +/- other players … it doesn’t make any difference either way.
Crazy i know … but it is still free to dream right???
Kobe wants out … and from your posts Lebron is basically doomed in Cleveland anyway … peace
larry d., yet again you are the voice of reason on this fast becoming irrelevant comment section.
gibby can shoot, defend AND penetrate. i have to laugh at all the selective memories here. don’t remember gibby’s drive and dunk early in the year? the drive on shaq with the “and one?” the floaters in the lane against SA and DET.? he CAN drive and he will drive AND dish more next year, i assure you! now that the team and coaching staff has confidence in him, they will allow him to be the PG. not snow’s back-up or hughes’ back-up, etc., but the STARTING PG of the cavs.
and boy, for people like tucker who LOVE to dismiss players stats when it suits their silly arguments to then turn around and use gibby’s lack of assist totals to cast aspersions on gibby’s PG credentials in beyond laughable. newsflash! since gibby plays with LBJ, who will avg. over 7 assists next year, if we only get 3 dimes a game from him, that is *more* than enough to play winning basketball.
we need, as larry d. says, a reliable low-post scorer off the bench FAR more than we need worry about the PG position. quit giving credence to what what you read both locally and nationally about the cavs needing a PG, and just watch with your own eyes. you’ll be surprised what you might see…
Alan,
I’m not looking to get into a border war with you on this, but if toughness is all we need — heck — let’s just start Pollard.
For the record, Vaught garnered no regular or postseason accolades (All-Rookie, All League, All Defense, All Star Game), his play didn’t contribute to winning teams either in the regular season (38% win percentage, two winning seasons) or in the postseason (lost all 5 series; 6-15 record, even when higher seeded twice), and his “muscle” stats are comparable to Varejao and Gooden.
Yet Vaught is excellent, and the other two couldn’t hold a candle to him. On what possible basis?
I lean heavily towards the Jerry West way of thinking, Kevin. Trust your eyes and your brain, and disregard silly things like stats, which can be bent and manipulated to mean just about anything. If you don’t believe me, Google all the times a Cavs PR flack issued a press release proclaiming what a terrific assists-to-turnover ratio Jeff McInnis had under his belt. As if that was irrefutable proof that he didn’t suck.
Vaught was on the verge of being one of the best power forwards in the league, but then his career was ruined when his lower back exploded and disintegrated, leaving just a stain like a Spinal Tap drummer…uh, remind me again why we’re having this discussion???
Alan,
We’re having this conversation because you raved about Vaught, and because you have been much less complimentary about Gooden and Varejao.
I just find it ironic that you wish we had a player like Vaught when in fact we have two.
Comparing Loy Vaught to Drew Gooden and/or Anderson Varejao is like comparing a banana to a kiwi and a kumquat. Kevin, what in the world are you talking about?
doc raises the el stinko Ferry trade that devastated the franchise, I happen to mention it incredibly was even more el stinko than he pointed out, and then you suddenly start brewing the statistics stew over Loy Vaught and God knows what else. I’m no expert in statisticholism, but it may be time for an intervention and a 12-step program.
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