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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/08/30/fiba-observations/#comment-1218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears to me that the Magic are about a #4 seed this year.  With what the three FIBA players showed this summer, they have two starting positions and a back-up 

1-guard well filled, and with Hedo and Jameer, that makes 4.  And they have added strength at the 2-guard so whichever of them, JJ, Bogans, or even Grant Hill gives good minutes, puts them in good shape.  Remember they have Tony, Carlos, Ariza and some other new, young players off the bench; that's a good 9 or 10 man rotation.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to me that the Magic are about a #4 seed this year.  With what the three FIBA players showed this summer, they have two starting positions and a back-up </p>
<p>1-guard well filled, and with Hedo and Jameer, that makes 4.  And they have added strength at the 2-guard so whichever of them, JJ, Bogans, or even Grant Hill gives good minutes, puts them in good shape.  Remember they have Tony, Carlos, Ariza and some other new, young players off the bench; that&#8217;s a good 9 or 10 man rotation.</p>
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		<title>By: JiDC</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/08/30/fiba-observations/#comment-1217</link>
		<dc:creator>JiDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPA!</description>
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		<title>By: Sho</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/08/30/fiba-observations/#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>Sho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ekene Ibekwe...I've been following the terps for a while now, but he has no shot.  No touch.  Just look at him shoot a free throw.  He did "test the waters" this summer to see where he stood in the draft, but withdrew his name.  No post game, no future in the NBA.  Who is saying he will be picked in the first round next year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ekene Ibekwe&#8230;I&#8217;ve been following the terps for a while now, but he has no shot.  No touch.  Just look at him shoot a free throw.  He did &#8220;test the waters&#8221; this summer to see where he stood in the draft, but withdrew his name.  No post game, no future in the NBA.  Who is saying he will be picked in the first round next year?</p>
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		<title>By: Moudi</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/08/30/fiba-observations/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>Moudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Darko is heaps soft, he only blocked Pau Gasol 3 times during a one on one post up during the Serbia v Spain game.



There is a a difference between soft and finesse. Olajuwon was a finesse player but he definitely wasnt soft.



As for Jose, he is having a good tournament but all he is in the NBA is a backup guard. Same as Arroyo. Comparing Jose to CP3 is outrageous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Darko is heaps soft, he only blocked Pau Gasol 3 times during a one on one post up during the Serbia v Spain game.</p>
<p>There is a a difference between soft and finesse. Olajuwon was a finesse player but he definitely wasnt soft.</p>
<p>As for Jose, he is having a good tournament but all he is in the NBA is a backup guard. Same as Arroyo. Comparing Jose to CP3 is outrageous!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont count out the greeks just yet buddy. I'm not sold on the Magic either. Arroyo in my books is not a starter and Darko is mentally + physically soft untill proven otherwise. Howard, no questions about it, Best Rebounder next decade!!! Since Tony Parker dropped out b/c of injury, Jose Calderon is the mest point guard penetrator period! Qoute me. As good as Chris Paul!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont count out the greeks just yet buddy. I&#8217;m not sold on the Magic either. Arroyo in my books is not a starter and Darko is mentally + physically soft untill proven otherwise. Howard, no questions about it, Best Rebounder next decade!!! Since Tony Parker dropped out b/c of injury, Jose Calderon is the mest point guard penetrator period! Qoute me. As good as Chris Paul!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Be Thankful KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Be Thankful KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be thankful, KJ - at least Tucker's predictably inane remarks were brief.

So far, Ferry has been responsible for one draft, and the results appear promising.  We're supposed to get mad at him for scouting FIBA basketball?  IDIOT.



Interesting to see that fans of other teams have so many better things to contribute.  Although I will believe in the greatness of Orlando only when I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be thankful, KJ - at least Tucker&#8217;s predictably inane remarks were brief.</p>
<p>So far, Ferry has been responsible for one draft, and the results appear promising.  We&#8217;re supposed to get mad at him for scouting FIBA basketball?  IDIOT.</p>
<p>Interesting to see that fans of other teams have so many better things to contribute.  Although I will believe in the greatness of Orlando only when I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you guys are probably right.  I mean Dwight shooting over 50% from the field and having 16 and 10 against Yao and Darko having 18 and 15 against Gasol means nothing.  I mean if these guys who are younger than Lebron can't dominate now, the Magic should just release them and start over.  

Come on now.  You guys are telling me that 20 year olds should be in their primes already?  These guys are still young and learning the game of basketball.  Look how long it took Dirk, T-Mac, Jermaine O'Neal, or even Kobe to get where they are.  You are giving them no room for improvement here.  

  Hedo has just entered his prime and if you saw or read anything of what he did for the Magic at the end of the season last year you would understand what kind of role player he can be for them. How does a guy "peak" in his rookie year?? Oh and about Carlos... he is not a starter for the Magic so why make the argument that he shouldn't be one??

  The Magic have a new look and young squad that played well in their only time on the floor together and you are saying that they aren't an up and coming team?  What is your definition of an up and coming team then?  Yeah, they might not end up being as good as some people think ,but you are automatically going to rule them out.  You just got to love people who comment on subjects they really don't know a whole lot about.  At least come up with valid reasons you believe the Magic won't succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you guys are probably right.  I mean Dwight shooting over 50% from the field and having 16 and 10 against Yao and Darko having 18 and 15 against Gasol means nothing.  I mean if these guys who are younger than Lebron can&#8217;t dominate now, the Magic should just release them and start over.  </p>
<p>Come on now.  You guys are telling me that 20 year olds should be in their primes already?  These guys are still young and learning the game of basketball.  Look how long it took Dirk, T-Mac, Jermaine O&#8217;Neal, or even Kobe to get where they are.  You are giving them no room for improvement here.  </p>
<p>  Hedo has just entered his prime and if you saw or read anything of what he did for the Magic at the end of the season last year you would understand what kind of role player he can be for them. How does a guy &#8220;peak&#8221; in his rookie year?? Oh and about Carlos&#8230; he is not a starter for the Magic so why make the argument that he shouldn&#8217;t be one??</p>
<p>  The Magic have a new look and young squad that played well in their only time on the floor together and you are saying that they aren&#8217;t an up and coming team?  What is your definition of an up and coming team then?  Yeah, they might not end up being as good as some people think ,but you are automatically going to rule them out.  You just got to love people who comment on subjects they really don&#8217;t know a whole lot about.  At least come up with valid reasons you believe the Magic won&#8217;t succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Moudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just not sold on all the changes we made in Chicago. I dont think with the new rules in the NBA a team that lives and dies on their defense will win a championship. Our offense is very mediocre cause the Bulls are basically a jump shooting team. I can see the parallels to the Pistons approach but when they won the title they had TWO legit low post threats in Rasheed Wallace and McDyess. Plus their go to guy in the clutch (Billups) could break down the defense and draw fouls if he had too. The Bulls dont have ANY low post threats and on top of that our go to guy (Gordon) comes off of screens for jump shots!!! We will make some noise in the regular season and playoffs but this team will NEVER be at a Championship level the way it is currently contructed. I really do hope Paxson can swing a deal for KG Ill tell you that much.



So the reason I am so optimistic about the Magics future is that they already have a very strong hi low threat in Darko and Dwight. Darko can stroke it but is also a good passer which should cover up Howards limitations in the low post. Most of the time he will be able to go to his pet moves (obviously the dunk and the power hook). On top of that both of them are very good defensively and it will be a nightmare for guards trying to penetrate the lane (which happens all the time now due to the new rules). Jameer is a solid PG and Turkuglo can get the job done at SF although I have my reservations about Reddick.



But on top of all that they could potentially have significant salary cap room next summer when a number of legit outside scorers become available (Carter or more likely Rashard Lewis). After next year they will be poised to make some SERIOUS noise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just not sold on all the changes we made in Chicago. I dont think with the new rules in the NBA a team that lives and dies on their defense will win a championship. Our offense is very mediocre cause the Bulls are basically a jump shooting team. I can see the parallels to the Pistons approach but when they won the title they had TWO legit low post threats in Rasheed Wallace and McDyess. Plus their go to guy in the clutch (Billups) could break down the defense and draw fouls if he had too. The Bulls dont have ANY low post threats and on top of that our go to guy (Gordon) comes off of screens for jump shots!!! We will make some noise in the regular season and playoffs but this team will NEVER be at a Championship level the way it is currently contructed. I really do hope Paxson can swing a deal for KG Ill tell you that much.</p>
<p>So the reason I am so optimistic about the Magics future is that they already have a very strong hi low threat in Darko and Dwight. Darko can stroke it but is also a good passer which should cover up Howards limitations in the low post. Most of the time he will be able to go to his pet moves (obviously the dunk and the power hook). On top of that both of them are very good defensively and it will be a nightmare for guards trying to penetrate the lane (which happens all the time now due to the new rules). Jameer is a solid PG and Turkuglo can get the job done at SF although I have my reservations about Reddick.</p>
<p>But on top of all that they could potentially have significant salary cap room next summer when a number of legit outside scorers become available (Carter or more likely Rashard Lewis). After next year they will be poised to make some SERIOUS noise!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right about the Orlando players playing great. But don't forget about the Raptors playing in the world cup (Bosh, Garbajosa, Calderon, Slokar, Nesterovic). All of them are/were doing well so far. Bosh has impressed me. He saw that what he did was wrong, so he adjusted his game so that he gets more minutes, and so that he could also be more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the Orlando players playing great. But don&#8217;t forget about the Raptors playing in the world cup (Bosh, Garbajosa, Calderon, Slokar, Nesterovic). All of them are/were doing well so far. Bosh has impressed me. He saw that what he did was wrong, so he adjusted his game so that he gets more minutes, and so that he could also be more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: kj</title>
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		<dc:creator>kj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm not sold on this "orlando is the team of the future" stuff. firstly, this is the first time i have had a chance to watch dwight howard extensively and i gotta say i am sometimes astounded by his athleticism but equally as stunned by his lack of ability to do *anything* on the offensive end except dunk. i mean his hands, for being a good rebounder, seem like stone. he loses the ball *constantly* going up for shots and if he can't dunk, actually has a hard time finishing around the hoop at all.



and why darko might be a nice player in the future, carlos arroyo is *not* even a nba-quality starter. he played *better* in the olympics a couple of years ago then he is now and he still didn't do much the following nba season. nelson has made himself into a nice player, however but this seems like a 45-win team to me, at best. 



and hey, glad to see tucker checking in with something typically pointless...i trust, tucker, that you've been pouring over the articles and lawsuits that are threatening to doom the brooklyn nets big plans? or is that something you'd rather not be brought up as that it might destroy your whole "LBJ is off the the nets" fantasy??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not sold on this &#8220;orlando is the team of the future&#8221; stuff. firstly, this is the first time i have had a chance to watch dwight howard extensively and i gotta say i am sometimes astounded by his athleticism but equally as stunned by his lack of ability to do *anything* on the offensive end except dunk. i mean his hands, for being a good rebounder, seem like stone. he loses the ball *constantly* going up for shots and if he can&#8217;t dunk, actually has a hard time finishing around the hoop at all.</p>
<p>and why darko might be a nice player in the future, carlos arroyo is *not* even a nba-quality starter. he played *better* in the olympics a couple of years ago then he is now and he still didn&#8217;t do much the following nba season. nelson has made himself into a nice player, however but this seems like a 45-win team to me, at best. </p>
<p>and hey, glad to see tucker checking in with something typically pointless&#8230;i trust, tucker, that you&#8217;ve been pouring over the articles and lawsuits that are threatening to doom the brooklyn nets big plans? or is that something you&#8217;d rather not be brought up as that it might destroy your whole &#8220;LBJ is off the the nets&#8221; fantasy??</p>
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