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		<title>By: sosa</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>sosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well who for? Forget 20/20 from last year, summer is the time for making trades. 



The Knicks, the TrailBlazers, the Warriors, etc., are ready for complete makeovers. So are the Cavs. What's Ferry going to do, and what should he do?



Also, what about Dee Brown in the draft? He's what the pundits call a tweener, but he's a player too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well who for? Forget 20/20 from last year, summer is the time for making trades. </p>
<p>The Knicks, the TrailBlazers, the Warriors, etc., are ready for complete makeovers. So are the Cavs. What&#8217;s Ferry going to do, and what should he do?</p>
<p>Also, what about Dee Brown in the draft? He&#8217;s what the pundits call a tweener, but he&#8217;s a player too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Tucker</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, please.  If you've been a reader of the Cavs beat in the Beacon Journal over the course of the past three to four years, then you'd certainly know that hell will freeze over before Brian starts any rumor designed to wave bye-bye to Z.



Aside from that burp in your comments, you do make a good point about teams manipulating the media to their benefit when all they're really doing is posturing.  Seeing how Brown hardly played the guy during the playoffs, there's no way Gooden will be signed by Cleveland without a sign-and-trade already negotiated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, please.  If you&#8217;ve been a reader of the Cavs beat in the Beacon Journal over the course of the past three to four years, then you&#8217;d certainly know that hell will freeze over before Brian starts any rumor designed to wave bye-bye to Z.</p>
<p>Aside from that burp in your comments, you do make a good point about teams manipulating the media to their benefit when all they&#8217;re really doing is posturing.  Seeing how Brown hardly played the guy during the playoffs, there&#8217;s no way Gooden will be signed by Cleveland without a sign-and-trade already negotiated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Are you feeding us Cavalier propaganda or are they serious about matching any offer for Gooden?  I know that teams have to give the impression that they will match any offer sheet in order to force a sign and trade rather than losing a RFA for nothing.  It sounds like you are making up trade rumors to help them move Z and find a good trade for Gooden.  Then you say no big moves.  Are you serious that they don't want to make changes in the front court and drafting a point guard late in the first round and keeping Larry Hughes healthy are the keys to improvement.  Is it that they are just waiting for the other LJ (Luke) to get healthy and blossom?  



Diop may be making a difference in these playoffs, but Dallas isn't planning their future around the kid.  He's a nice suprise on a team that has many options.  He earned minutes away from others that were competent instead of being forced into playing.  Cleveland lacks options right now with the likes of Newble, Pavlovic, Jackson, Henderson, Martynas, and Graham stuck on the bench.  None of these players were fighting for minutes last year.  Without Z, Diop would have had to play instead of having to earn minutes.  Plus, we would have tried to run Ferry out of town if he gave a new coach a starting center with Diop's record and Varejao coming back from surgery with much uncertainty.  Hindsight isn't always 20/20.

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Are you feeding us Cavalier propaganda or are they serious about matching any offer for Gooden?  I know that teams have to give the impression that they will match any offer sheet in order to force a sign and trade rather than losing a RFA for nothing.  It sounds like you are making up trade rumors to help them move Z and find a good trade for Gooden.  Then you say no big moves.  Are you serious that they don&#8217;t want to make changes in the front court and drafting a point guard late in the first round and keeping Larry Hughes healthy are the keys to improvement.  Is it that they are just waiting for the other LJ (Luke) to get healthy and blossom?  </p>
<p>Diop may be making a difference in these playoffs, but Dallas isn&#8217;t planning their future around the kid.  He&#8217;s a nice suprise on a team that has many options.  He earned minutes away from others that were competent instead of being forced into playing.  Cleveland lacks options right now with the likes of Newble, Pavlovic, Jackson, Henderson, Martynas, and Graham stuck on the bench.  None of these players were fighting for minutes last year.  Without Z, Diop would have had to play instead of having to earn minutes.  Plus, we would have tried to run Ferry out of town if he gave a new coach a starting center with Diop&#8217;s record and Varejao coming back from surgery with much uncertainty.  Hindsight isn&#8217;t always 20/20.</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right and I misread that part of Brian's post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right and I misread that part of Brian&#8217;s post.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, he wouldn't have considered taking the minimum because he was being offered 5 times that amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, he wouldn&#8217;t have considered taking the minimum because he was being offered 5 times that amount.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/cavs/2006/06/01/early-june-potpourri/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 09:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn't he have considered it, with a new, defensive-minded coach and the possibility of more playing time if Z didn't return? 



Whenever the decision was made, I think it was a mistake. I get the feeling no one wants to admit it because no one saw it at the time. "No basketball instincts" was the refrain, if I remember correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t he have considered it, with a new, defensive-minded coach and the possibility of more playing time if Z didn&#8217;t return? </p>
<p>Whenever the decision was made, I think it was a mistake. I get the feeling no one wants to admit it because no one saw it at the time. &#8220;No basketball instincts&#8221; was the refrain, if I remember correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel I should jump in here to explain the Diop situation.  Diop could've been a restricted free agent last summer but the Cavs wanted to clear his cap hold so they chose not to extend him a qualifying offer and renounced his rights the morning they signed Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall.



The Cavs probably would have been willing to bring him back at the minimum, but why would he have even considered it?  I don't think anyone could be critical of the thinking on either side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel I should jump in here to explain the Diop situation.  Diop could&#8217;ve been a restricted free agent last summer but the Cavs wanted to clear his cap hold so they chose not to extend him a qualifying offer and renounced his rights the morning they signed Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall.</p>
<p>The Cavs probably would have been willing to bring him back at the minimum, but why would he have even considered it?  I don&#8217;t think anyone could be critical of the thinking on either side.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just saying players with Diop's youth, size and desire to play defense and rebound, exclusively, don't fall off trees. The Cavs didn't seem to seriously consider signing him to anything other than a minimum contract.



Committing to Diop and Verajao at center last summer would have been risky, but it would have changed the dynamics of the free agency period and provided a pretty solid base for the team's future growth.



When the Cavs signed Hughes, they said he was their first choice among big guards, which seems like a dubious claim to me. I wonder if Redd and Allen would have been more apt to consider Cleveland if they didn't think they'd have to compete with Z for shots.



Of course, it's all water under the bridge now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying players with Diop&#8217;s youth, size and desire to play defense and rebound, exclusively, don&#8217;t fall off trees. The Cavs didn&#8217;t seem to seriously consider signing him to anything other than a minimum contract.</p>
<p>Committing to Diop and Verajao at center last summer would have been risky, but it would have changed the dynamics of the free agency period and provided a pretty solid base for the team&#8217;s future growth.</p>
<p>When the Cavs signed Hughes, they said he was their first choice among big guards, which seems like a dubious claim to me. I wonder if Redd and Allen would have been more apt to consider Cleveland if they didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d have to compete with Z for shots.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s all water under the bridge now.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, wait, I think I was right the first time.  Dawn 'til dusk.  Unless Ferry scouted Diop at 3 AM.  This Diop debate is too confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, wait, I think I was right the first time.  Dawn &#8217;til dusk.  Unless Ferry scouted Diop at 3 AM.  This Diop debate is too confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Tucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that should have been dusk 'til dawn.  Either way, please realistically explain how Diop would have or could have made any difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that should have been dusk &#8217;til dawn.  Either way, please realistically explain how Diop would have or could have made any difference.</p>
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