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Now *there's* a message I can support.
Good one, Chip!
Isn't that silly. The government opens fire on a crowd of unarmed students, killing a few of them, and years later, one of the survivors is still thinking about it. What is the matter with that guy?
Nothing's wrong with that guy. Thats the latest thing, cash in on whatever victimhood you can. Get a little fame, maybe a book deal and a little money all just for being in the wrong place 37 years ago. Can't really blame him.
Its everyone else pandering to his perpetual victimhood thats tiring.
First one to to compare it to the Holocaust gets a cookie!
Kent State cartoon is heartless. Or maybe its time to tell families of GIs and civilians killed in Iraq to get a life according to Bok.
Kent State cartoon is heartless. Or maybe its time to tell families of GIs and civilians killed in Iraq to get a life according to Bok.
I'm not sure that fellow was in "the wrong place" 37 years ago. He was at school.
The tape is an interesting historical artifact; what's the matter with playing it in public?
You have a point, but facing armed soldiers while a mob throws rocks at them certainly isn't the "right place".
In any case, theres nothing wrong with playing the tape as a point of historical interest. But demands to reopen an investigation in order to instigate 'healing' is absurd.
It's certainly disingenuous(spelling?), but I'm not sure it's not all that different, from the victims' point of view, from all the KKK trials that keep getting dredged up in Mississippi. If there was some criminal culpability that hasn't been taken care of, and people died, then it should be taken care of.
As for being in the wrong place, what self-respecting college student wouldn't want to check out the national guard breaking up a demonstration? I'd be there, and I'd hope my kid would be there if he were a student too. What a great lesson in the realities of "democracy" and government.
"As for being in the wrong place, what self-respecting college student wouldn't want to check out the national guard breaking up a demonstration"
None I suppose, but that certainly compromises ones claims to victimhood for two reasons. Either he was
1. partaking in accosting the guardsmen or
2. too stupid to watch the event from a safe distance.
Keep in mind, the guardsmen werent there to merely break up a demonstration, they were there to quell the rioting and arson that had occured in the preceding days. This was a volatile, violent situation, not a love-in.
"What a great lesson in the realities of "democracy" and government."
What does this have to do with democracy(with or without the scare quotes)? Are democratic governments not supposed to keep people from rioting and burning down buildings?
I don't know. The scare quotes weren't meant to imply we don't live in a democracy. I meant to imply only that there are limits to how democratic an orderly society can be.
I'm too young to really remember that day or the days preceding it, so I'm not trying to take one side or the other, if there are sides this late in the game. I just think it's an eye opener to imagine government troops shooting at a group of American civilians. It's probably a good thing to be reminded of.
One thing I'm pretty sure of, stupid people can be classified as victims too. If not, we should legalize fraud.
Yes, stupid can be victims too. I suppose I should have said "it compromises ones claims to sympathy". Its hard to feel bad for someone whos attacked by a bear if they were poking it with a stick.