Comments on: CAIR Meeting http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/ Chip Bok Editorial Cartoons Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:47:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: AmericanMuslimGirl http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-386 AmericanMuslimGirl Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:06:51 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-386 Okay, first of all aliannmil, the hijab is not an object of oppression upon Muslims. I wear the hijab wherever I go in public, including school, and I love it. Nobody forced me to wear the hijab. I choose to do it my self. I wear the hijab because I love God and it stands as a sign of modesty. Instead of going out in short skirts, revealed, and immodest, the hijab and my type of clothing that I wear covers me and protects me from the MANY harmful and dangerous things that happen in today's world. Also, I don't know where you got the idea that Islam oppresses women, but let me assure you, Islam grants women full rights. Women today might be oppressed by people who call themselves “Muslims”, but are not really following Islam. I do not have control over those kinds of people, but I can assure you that if you studied the Quran and the practice of Muhammed (peace and blessings be upon him), you would find that Islam does NOT support oppression of women AT ALL! Just because someone of the Christian religion murders someone, do I say that the Christian religion supports that? NOT AT ALL! So, let me ask you, why are you labeling Islam as an oppressive religion when all the proof you have is people who call themselves Muslims but are really not following Islam? Here-I have a suggestion. Why don’t you actually study Islam, the Quran, and the practices of the Prophet Muhammed (Peace and blessings be upon him) before you label Islam, just as I have not labeled Catholicism, Christianity, and other religions with false labels---especially not before studying them. (And trust me, I have studied Catholicism—I have been going to a Catholic school for 10 years) Okay, first of all aliannmil, the hijab is not an object of oppression upon Muslims. I wear the hijab wherever I go in public, including school, and I love it. Nobody forced me to wear the hijab. I choose to do it my self. I wear the hijab because I love God and it stands as a sign of modesty. Instead of going out in short skirts, revealed, and immodest, the hijab and my type of clothing that I wear covers me and protects me from the MANY harmful and dangerous things that happen in today's world. Also, I don't know where you got the idea that Islam oppresses women, but let me assure you, Islam grants women full rights. Women today might be oppressed by people who call themselves “Muslims”, but are not really following Islam. I do not have control over those kinds of people, but I can assure you that if you studied the Quran and the practice of Muhammed (peace and blessings be upon him), you would find that Islam does NOT support oppression of women AT ALL! Just because someone of the Christian religion murders someone, do I say that the Christian religion supports that? NOT AT ALL! So, let me ask you, why are you labeling Islam as an oppressive religion when all the proof you have is people who call themselves Muslims but are really not following Islam? Here-I have a suggestion. Why don’t you actually study Islam, the Quran, and the practices of the Prophet Muhammed (Peace and blessings be upon him) before you label Islam, just as I have not labeled Catholicism, Christianity, and other religions with false labels—especially not before studying them. (And trust me, I have studied Catholicism—I have been going to a Catholic school for 10 years)

]]> By: John Falcon http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-385 John Falcon Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:57:17 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-385 Good Job! 'Mike' and 'Not interested in Jihad' Bin Laden told us to leave their lands and stop supporting the dictators. Fat chance. We need and want their oil and we want it cheap. And we are going to get it, like it or not. We can't have any of these countries to thumb their noses at us either. When Uncle Sam wants some thing, US gets it. PEACE!!!!!!!!!! Good Job! 'Mike' and 'Not interested in Jihad'

Bin Laden told us to leave their lands and stop supporting the dictators.

Fat chance. We need and want their oil and we want it cheap. And we are going to get it, like it or not. We can't have any of these countries to thumb their noses at us either. When Uncle Sam wants some thing, US gets it.

PEACE!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Muslim Girl http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-384 Muslim Girl Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:12:38 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-384 "Muslims HATE White people! Don't you get it?" I am sorry Mike, but just so you know there are some white, american muslims (Gasp!) I just want to also add that I as a muslim do agree that cartoons are not as harmful to Islam as crazy people who blow up others! I respect all religions, because it gives us a connection to God and what we know. Here is a novel idea, I think instead of us Muslims calling out against cartoonists in Denmark, we should call out against the lady who ran into the wedding reception. How about we rally to tell the small majority of ill thinking muslims that "this isn't God's way and we need to look closer to the Koran instead doing crazy stunts." Well that's all I have to say I am sorry if I have offended anyone, but those are my thoughts "Muslims HATE White people! Don't you get it?"

I am sorry Mike, but just so you know there are some white, american muslims (Gasp!)

I just want to also add that I as a muslim do agree that cartoons are not as harmful to Islam as crazy people who blow up others! I respect all religions, because it gives us a connection to God and what we know.

Here is a novel idea, I think instead of us Muslims calling out against cartoonists in Denmark, we should call out against the lady who ran into the wedding reception. How about we rally to tell the small majority of ill thinking muslims that "this isn't God's way and we need to look closer to the Koran instead doing crazy stunts."

Well that's all I have to say I am sorry if I have offended anyone, but those are my thoughts

]]> By: MIKE http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-383 MIKE Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:49:49 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-383 Muslims HATE White people! Don't you get it? They hate our freedom of speech, because in Britain, USA, Australia, etc, when we have truly free speech, we tell them to take their dog blankets and green ninja scarfs somewhere else. When we have semi-free speech, we tell them that our cartoons were meant to prove a point, not offend muslims. Muslims HATE White people! Don't you get it? They hate our freedom of speech, because in Britain, USA, Australia, etc, when we have truly free speech, we tell them to take their dog blankets and green ninja scarfs somewhere else. When we have semi-free speech, we tell them that our cartoons were meant to prove a point, not offend muslims.

]]> By: Nico the Magnificient http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-382 Nico the Magnificient Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:55:13 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-382 Chip, You ROCK. Keep going brother. Chip, You ROCK. Keep going brother.

]]> By: Not interested in jihad http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-381 Not interested in jihad Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:13:56 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-381 I have a simple question for you peaceful, moderate Muslims out there. We non-Muslims have a pretty clear idea of what the "murderous minority" of Muslims want us to do (i.e.,convert to Islam or die). This bunch seems bent on the violent domination of the Middle East and the destruction of the Western World and they appear to be pursuing this objective unhindered by what you insist is the peaceful majority of Muslims. Here's the question- What would YOU have us do? Basically we are just a bunch of people who want the freedom of our beliefs and are perfectly willing to grant the same to you so long as it does not involve the murder of us. Really doesn't seem like too much to ask. This is not a rhetorical question. Please try to keep your answers simple. We are really trying to figure this out and the answer is eluding us. I have a simple question for you peaceful, moderate Muslims out there. We non-Muslims have a pretty clear idea of what the "murderous minority" of Muslims want us to do (i.e.,convert to Islam or die). This bunch seems bent on the violent domination of the Middle East and the destruction of the Western World and they appear to be pursuing this objective unhindered by what you insist is the peaceful majority of Muslims. Here's the question- What would YOU have us do? Basically we are just a bunch of people who want the freedom of our beliefs and are perfectly willing to grant the same to you so long as it does not involve the murder of us. Really doesn't seem like too much to ask.

This is not a rhetorical question. Please try to keep your answers simple. We are really trying to figure this out and the answer is eluding us.

]]> By: It's me, T.J. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-380 It's me, T.J. Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:00:18 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-380 The actual rub here to me are the differences in ethics. What are Islamic ethics? Al-Taqiyyah and kitman are both ethical avenues given to the Muslim through the Koran. It's all spelled out for the believer and even translated into English. And I presume that there isn't a 'moderate' Koran vs. a 'radical' Koran, right? Given that there is just one Koran then I would have to say that there really isn't a distinction between the 'moderate' and the 'radical'. Anything that CAIR has to say is either classified as al-taqiyyah or kitman, because the *truth* is, they haven't ~done~ anything to stop the activity that is 'radical' much less intervene on the illegal acts. Either way... it's all lies and deception. Their silence is resounding approval to the ears of the Muslim community. later... The actual rub here to me are the differences in ethics.

What are Islamic ethics?

Al-Taqiyyah and kitman are both ethical avenues given to the Muslim through the Koran. It's all spelled out for the believer and even translated into English.

And I presume that there isn't a 'moderate' Koran vs. a 'radical' Koran, right?

Given that there is just one Koran then I would have to say that there really isn't a distinction between the 'moderate' and the 'radical'.

Anything that CAIR has to say is either classified as al-taqiyyah or kitman, because the *truth* is, they haven't ~done~ anything to stop the activity that is 'radical' much less intervene on the illegal acts.

Either way… it's all lies and deception.

Their silence is resounding approval to the ears of the Muslim community.

later…

]]> By: Terrahawk http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-379 Terrahawk Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:39:48 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-379 Alianmil: "I don't condemn Christians in general for the idiots who kill abortionist in God's name I simply condemn the killer." Yet, let's say Christians continued to kill abortionists year-after-year in growing numbers and then someone did a cartoon that show Christianity in a bad way because of those killing. Now, if the response of Christians was to riot all over the world because the cartoons and demand apologies and threaten death, what would you think? Especially, what would you think if Christians hadn't done much in the way of denouncing the killers? Alianmil:

"I don't condemn Christians in general for the idiots who kill abortionist in God's name I simply condemn the killer."

Yet, let's say Christians continued to kill abortionists year-after-year in growing numbers and then someone did a cartoon that show Christianity in a bad way because of those killing. Now, if the response of Christians was to riot all over the world because the cartoons and demand apologies and threaten death, what would you think? Especially, what would you think if Christians hadn't done much in the way of denouncing the killers?

]]> By: Terrahawk http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-378 Terrahawk Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:34:21 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-378 Ann: "There's no point in discussing this with someone who gets (dis)information from Robert Spencer. For anyone who actually wants accurate information, though, I hope you look for it from someone else." Okay, then are any of the statements I made in my post false? Or is this just a typical tactic of one who tries to avoid facts? If what I posted was disinformation, then you should be able to easily refute it. Ann:

"There's no point in discussing this with someone who gets (dis)information from Robert Spencer. For anyone who actually wants accurate information, though, I hope you look for it from someone else."

Okay, then are any of the statements I made in my post false? Or is this just a typical tactic of one who tries to avoid facts? If what I posted was disinformation, then you should be able to easily refute it.

]]> By: John in Florida http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/2006/02/cair-meeting/#comment-377 John in Florida Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:30:35 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/bok/?p=99#comment-377 I don't want to just *hear* how CAIR or others are opposed to terrorism; I want to *see* it. I want to see thousands of angry Muslims out in the streets protesting terrorism the way they're out protesting cartoons. If they're as outraged as they say they are about terrorism, shouldn't it be obvious? I don't want to just *hear* how CAIR or others are opposed to terrorism; I want to *see* it. I want to see thousands of angry Muslims out in the streets protesting terrorism the way they're out protesting cartoons. If they're as outraged as they say they are about terrorism, shouldn't it be obvious?

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