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		<title>Comment on Makes No Sense by The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m a &quot;delusional lemming.&quot; 

The White House said that FOX was not basically a news organization, but rather, more like talk radio. That is a fact. Because you refuse to accept that has nothing to do with the veracity of that fact. 

Your dismissive...&quot;because they do not portray the administration in a favorable light&quot;......is bullpucky. No one is talking about portraying Obama in a good light here......we&#039;re talking about open promotion and participation in anti-Obama events. That&#039;s what talk radio does. We&#039;re talking about openly lying repeatedly in order to portray Obama in a poor light. And Limbaugh....Christ, what can you say about a a person, who, had he been huckstering during the Founder&#039;s time, would have been hung awhile ago?

Obama is disappointing on many fronts, just not in the way conservatives perceive him as being disappointing. 

Delusional would fit the person who, despite all the evidence,......MediaMatters has tons for all to see.......still insists that FOX &quot;news&quot; is something other than an opinion/entertainment network. FOX has every right, of course,....and so does Obama.

You want lemmings?  Dittoheads are lemmings. BeckerHeads are lemmings.

But a special note on this:....&quot;fledgling authoritarian regime&quot;. That&#039;s the richest phrase I&#039;ve seen recently.

Cheney/Bush was an authoritarian regime. No other White House has ever been as authoritarian or lawless. Conservatives still have not come to grips with the treasonous nature of the Bush years. They still have blinders on....and now, outrageously, they point to Obama&#039;s stating of the facts,....no threats, no harassment, no warnings..... as evidence of a &quot;flegling authoritarian regime.&quot;

It&#039;s gotta&#039; be the political dyslexia syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#039;m a &#034;delusional lemming.&#034; </p>
<p>The White House said that FOX was not basically a news organization, but rather, more like talk radio. That is a fact. Because you refuse to accept that has nothing to do with the veracity of that fact. </p>
<p>Your dismissive&#8230;&#034;because they do not portray the administration in a favorable light&#034;&#8230;&#8230;is bullpucky. No one is talking about portraying Obama in a good light here&#8230;&#8230;we&#039;re talking about open promotion and participation in anti-Obama events. That&#039;s what talk radio does. We&#039;re talking about openly lying repeatedly in order to portray Obama in a poor light. And Limbaugh&#8230;.Christ, what can you say about a a person, who, had he been huckstering during the Founder&#039;s time, would have been hung awhile ago?</p>
<p>Obama is disappointing on many fronts, just not in the way conservatives perceive him as being disappointing. </p>
<p>Delusional would fit the person who, despite all the evidence,&#8230;&#8230;MediaMatters has tons for all to see&#8230;&#8230;.still insists that FOX &#034;news&#034; is something other than an opinion/entertainment network. FOX has every right, of course,&#8230;.and so does Obama.</p>
<p>You want lemmings?  Dittoheads are lemmings. BeckerHeads are lemmings.</p>
<p>But a special note on this:&#8230;.&#034;fledgling authoritarian regime&#034;. That&#039;s the richest phrase I&#039;ve seen recently.</p>
<p>Cheney/Bush was an authoritarian regime. No other White House has ever been as authoritarian or lawless. Conservatives still have not come to grips with the treasonous nature of the Bush years. They still have blinders on&#8230;.and now, outrageously, they point to Obama&#039;s stating of the facts,&#8230;.no threats, no harassment, no warnings&#8230;.. as evidence of a &#034;flegling authoritarian regime.&#034;</p>
<p>It&#039;s gotta&#039; be the political dyslexia syndrome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shooter by The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About what I expected.....and I really took no position on the still-ongoing story.

Muslim extremists, just like American Talibangelical extremists, kill innocent people with random, difficult to predict, acts of violence. Are there warning signs with lone wolf-types? Were there warning signs befor Scott Roeder assassinated Dr. George Tiller? Maybe there were warning signs with Hasan. It appears that Hasan was not really much of a social guy. That leaves his family and his Army colleagues. I can&#039;t say who should have intervened.

average...you&#039;re off the rails here. Clinton brought the WTC bomber to justice. Clinton also targeted Bin Laden camps with rockets. 

The POTUS isn&#039;t responsible for Army personnel. He&#039;s not the human resources administrator for the Army.

If the Virginia Tech shootup was a terrorist attack, then, yes, the Ft. Hood massacre is a terrorist attack too. They were very similar. 

I don&#039;t necessarily agree that it&#039;s so plain and simple to label this as an Islamic attack. We need more information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About what I expected&#8230;..and I really took no position on the still-ongoing story.</p>
<p>Muslim extremists, just like American Talibangelical extremists, kill innocent people with random, difficult to predict, acts of violence. Are there warning signs with lone wolf-types? Were there warning signs befor Scott Roeder assassinated Dr. George Tiller? Maybe there were warning signs with Hasan. It appears that Hasan was not really much of a social guy. That leaves his family and his Army colleagues. I can&#039;t say who should have intervened.</p>
<p>average&#8230;you&#039;re off the rails here. Clinton brought the WTC bomber to justice. Clinton also targeted Bin Laden camps with rockets. </p>
<p>The POTUS isn&#039;t responsible for Army personnel. He&#039;s not the human resources administrator for the Army.</p>
<p>If the Virginia Tech shootup was a terrorist attack, then, yes, the Ft. Hood massacre is a terrorist attack too. They were very similar. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t necessarily agree that it&#039;s so plain and simple to label this as an Islamic attack. We need more information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shooter by bzzzzp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bzzzzp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have hoped that we could have found common ground in opposition to terror attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have hoped that we could have found common ground in opposition to terror attacks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shooter by averagejoe5</title>
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		<dc:creator>averagejoe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a terror attack plain and simple. They knew he was a risk because of his beliefs. Obama did nothing about it. In fact he and his administration and homeland security advisor let this happen.  Why wasn&#039;t this brought to Obama&#039;s attention so that he could make a decision on what to do before 43 people got shot. Our enemy could be all through or military, trojan horse style. This is a cover up of magnanomous proportion.  However nothing will be done just like Clinton did nothing about the 1st WTC bombing.
Don&#039;t bury your heads on this one folks this has to do with your safety and the safety of your loved ones. I say try to keep him alive and got out the waterboard before anything happens to my family.
I&#039;m just glad his name wasn&#039;t Bill Graham or something crazy like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a terror attack plain and simple. They knew he was a risk because of his beliefs. Obama did nothing about it. In fact he and his administration and homeland security advisor let this happen.  Why wasn&#039;t this brought to Obama&#039;s attention so that he could make a decision on what to do before 43 people got shot. Our enemy could be all through or military, trojan horse style. This is a cover up of magnanomous proportion.  However nothing will be done just like Clinton did nothing about the 1st WTC bombing.<br />
Don&#039;t bury your heads on this one folks this has to do with your safety and the safety of your loved ones. I say try to keep him alive and got out the waterboard before anything happens to my family.<br />
I&#039;m just glad his name wasn&#039;t Bill Graham or something crazy like that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Makes No Sense by larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the White House stating or restating any empirical facts, Reverend. What facts? 

On the other hand, I have seen them try to smear a news organization and a radio talk show host because the do not portray the administration in a favorable light. It&#039;s just what fledgling authoritarian regimes do, and rationalizing it is just what delusional lemmings do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t seen the White House stating or restating any empirical facts, Reverend. What facts? </p>
<p>On the other hand, I have seen them try to smear a news organization and a radio talk show host because the do not portray the administration in a favorable light. It&#039;s just what fledgling authoritarian regimes do, and rationalizing it is just what delusional lemmings do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shooter by larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what this post would be like if the fellow&#039;s name as Bubba Jones and he yelled &quot;Jesus is Lord&quot; during the murderous spree. Actually, I don&#039;t wonder at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what this post would be like if the fellow&#039;s name as Bubba Jones and he yelled &#034;Jesus is Lord&#034; during the murderous spree. Actually, I don&#039;t wonder at all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tear The House Down by The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Quid....not helpful.

Abortion is still legal in America. The &quot;voice&quot;, pre-Roe, which had no power....was a woman&#039;s voice. If conservative anti-abortionists want to revoke Roe...then they have every right to do so in accordance with our democratic process.

&quot;family destroying programs&quot; is your characterization. What you are proposing is that blacks continue to vote for Democrats knowing that Democrats are out to destroy black families. Doesn&#039;t seem believable to me.

&quot;escape the programs of the Liberal State&quot;....you mean like Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, etc? 

&quot;Those who achieve independence are condemned as traitors to their race.&quot; &quot;independence&quot; from what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Quid&#8230;.not helpful.</p>
<p>Abortion is still legal in America. The &#034;voice&#034;, pre-Roe, which had no power&#8230;.was a woman&#039;s voice. If conservative anti-abortionists want to revoke Roe&#8230;then they have every right to do so in accordance with our democratic process.</p>
<p>&#034;family destroying programs&#034; is your characterization. What you are proposing is that blacks continue to vote for Democrats knowing that Democrats are out to destroy black families. Doesn&#039;t seem believable to me.</p>
<p>&#034;escape the programs of the Liberal State&#034;&#8230;.you mean like Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, etc? </p>
<p>&#034;Those who achieve independence are condemned as traitors to their race.&#034; &#034;independence&#034; from what?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Makes No Sense by The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment, larry, is indicative of the very problem I described.

The NY Times story about Bush&#039;s illegal wiretapping of Americans, held from print for one full year, had nothing whatsoever to do with &quot;classified information&quot;. The only way one can believe such a narrative is to also believe that al-Qaeda didn&#039;t already assume America was listening in to all their communications. A very silly assumption.

Again, the Obama White House did NOT tell Americans to stop watching FOX. That is a falsehood. 

Stating and restating the empirical facts....provable facts.....has nothing to do with authoritarian regimes. That statement sounds like winger paranoia....or sore-loserdom....to me.

Tbomb.....those endorsements are, I&#039;m sure, because AARP, the AMA, and the Cancer Society are socialist domestic enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment, larry, is indicative of the very problem I described.</p>
<p>The NY Times story about Bush&#039;s illegal wiretapping of Americans, held from print for one full year, had nothing whatsoever to do with &#034;classified information&#034;. The only way one can believe such a narrative is to also believe that al-Qaeda didn&#039;t already assume America was listening in to all their communications. A very silly assumption.</p>
<p>Again, the Obama White House did NOT tell Americans to stop watching FOX. That is a falsehood. </p>
<p>Stating and restating the empirical facts&#8230;.provable facts&#8230;..has nothing to do with authoritarian regimes. That statement sounds like winger paranoia&#8230;.or sore-loserdom&#8230;.to me.</p>
<p>Tbomb&#8230;..those endorsements are, I&#039;m sure, because AARP, the AMA, and the Cancer Society are socialist domestic enemies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Makes No Sense by larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Releasing classified information of course can in some cases endanger national security and is in some cases illegal, Reverend. I&#039;m not sure what &quot;intervening&quot; in reporting means, but I suspect it means pointing out errors in a particular story or particular stories, which I think is fine. But telling folks they shouldn&#039;t watch particular outlets, targeting dissenting voices, attempting to marginalize large swaths of the American citizenry as delusional, etc., is creepiness. 

In short, &quot;correcting the incorrect narrative&quot; is the goal of all authoritarian regimes. It&#039;s just what The Machine does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Releasing classified information of course can in some cases endanger national security and is in some cases illegal, Reverend. I&#039;m not sure what &#034;intervening&#034; in reporting means, but I suspect it means pointing out errors in a particular story or particular stories, which I think is fine. But telling folks they shouldn&#039;t watch particular outlets, targeting dissenting voices, attempting to marginalize large swaths of the American citizenry as delusional, etc., is creepiness. </p>
<p>In short, &#034;correcting the incorrect narrative&#034; is the goal of all authoritarian regimes. It&#039;s just what The Machine does.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Makes No Sense by The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For several years before Obama became president, I was pointing out the narrative crisis we had in America. Conservatives, lovingly termed wingers, believed in one version of a current event.....reality-based observers held a different narrative.

It really all started with the Clinton impeachment....but the 2000 election intensified the narrative distinctions. Then Iraq, Valerie Plame, Jack Abramoff, Katrina and so many other stories added to the confusion. Neither side agreed with the other on what happened. Toss in torture, Dick Cheney&#039;s many evils, FOX, and then Sarah Palin&#039;s trouble with facts and truth....multiply all that by a TeaBagger exponent....and the U.S. has a big communications mess.

So....when you think I&#039;m &quot;stifling free speech&quot;...what I&#039;m doing is correcting the incorrect narrative wingers swear is the truth. My criticisms of the Village, FOX, Fluffy, and all the rest, is not for the purpose of stifling speech.....just setting the record straight.

To grasp some perspective here.....W. threatened to convict the NY Times for releasing classified information. W. sought to intervene in MSNBC&#039;s reporting.....Obama said that FOX wasn&#039;t a news organization.
Wingers defend Bush&#039;s threats against the NY Times and MSNBC, yet criticize Obama&#039;s mild statement of fact about FOX. Two narratives....only one is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For several years before Obama became president, I was pointing out the narrative crisis we had in America. Conservatives, lovingly termed wingers, believed in one version of a current event&#8230;..reality-based observers held a different narrative.</p>
<p>It really all started with the Clinton impeachment&#8230;.but the 2000 election intensified the narrative distinctions. Then Iraq, Valerie Plame, Jack Abramoff, Katrina and so many other stories added to the confusion. Neither side agreed with the other on what happened. Toss in torture, Dick Cheney&#039;s many evils, FOX, and then Sarah Palin&#039;s trouble with facts and truth&#8230;.multiply all that by a TeaBagger exponent&#8230;.and the U.S. has a big communications mess.</p>
<p>So&#8230;.when you think I&#039;m &#034;stifling free speech&#034;&#8230;what I&#039;m doing is correcting the incorrect narrative wingers swear is the truth. My criticisms of the Village, FOX, Fluffy, and all the rest, is not for the purpose of stifling speech&#8230;..just setting the record straight.</p>
<p>To grasp some perspective here&#8230;..W. threatened to convict the NY Times for releasing classified information. W. sought to intervene in MSNBC&#039;s reporting&#8230;..Obama said that FOX wasn&#039;t a news organization.<br />
Wingers defend Bush&#039;s threats against the NY Times and MSNBC, yet criticize Obama&#039;s mild statement of fact about FOX. Two narratives&#8230;.only one is true.</p>
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