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Forced Pregnancy Referendum In Mississippi

by The Reverend on November 8, 2011

in abortion,choice,intolerance,religion

Along with Ohio's SB5 referendum vote in Ohio today…..is Mississippi's referendum vote on "fetal personhood." Voters in Mississippi today will be deciding whether they believe all fertilized human eggs are, in fact, "persons"…and thus entitled to all the protections guaranteed to all other U.S."persons."

Of course, this Mississippi referendum has nothing to do with granting personhood rights to fertilized human eggs…it has to do with denying all Mississippi women the right to choose their own reproductive lives. Ending abortion….that's what the poor southern state is putting to a vote today.

As with Ohio's Issue 3, if Mississippian's "personhood" referendum passes, it will not become the law of the United States and, most likely, will not become effective law even in Mississippi because of the court battles which will surely follow. But that could be the goal of radicalized forced-pregnancy conservatives in Mississippi. Even though Roe v Wade forces no female citizen to choose abortion, forced-pregnancy enthusiasts in Mississippi would force all pregnant women, whether they wanted to bear a child or not, to have no other choice.

To stimulate a bit of discussion on the "forced pregnancy" movement in Mississippi….I encourage you to read this short piece.

Hullabaloo's David Atkins sets forward 4 group-think examples which seek to encompass where the "passion" behind the forced pregnancy lobby comes from..

1) A small minority of the forced pregnancy movement are….

..seriously hardcore misogynists who want women to be little more than vessels to carry babies. This is actually a fairly small minority of the movement, but these are the folks who are against not only abortion, but birth control and abortion even in cases of rape or incest. These people would still be branding women with scarlet letters if they had the chance. The abortion issue isn't about babies for them. It's about controlling women and sexuality.

2) Pregnancy as punishment for having sex….a variation on #1…

The pro-punishment crowd that sees sex as inherently evil and carries around a softer version of the first group's misogyny.

3) The Christian conservatives who actually believe a god breathes a soul into every fertilized human egg at…fertilization.

The actual Bible-thumper crowd. A lot of these people obviously overlap with groups 1 and 2, but there is a segment of people who are legitimately convinced that all these little eggs and fetuses are imbued with a soul by the magic Creator, and that there is an unsung massacre ongoing everyday on a par with the Nazi Holocaust.

4) Those who are only following their leaders or role model figures…

…follow along with whatever their "pro-life" pastor, youth group leader or similar charlatan says is the right thing to believe. They don't have strong convictions about these things, but everyone else in their social group seems to have anti-choice beliefs, so they might as well, too.

Atkins goes on to explain what science has to say about this "a fertilized human egg is a person" issue….remember science?

This is what we know: During the period of embryonic development that begins with fertilization and ends with successful implantation, about 50 percent of human conceptions fail to survive. The main reason for this high failure rate is the inability of huge numbers of fertilized eggs to implant.

Either "god" is…well….similar to Hitler…or perhaps a fertilized human egg alone….does not qualify as a person.

Mississippi Governor Barbour has already voiced some concerns about the state's forced pregnancy referendum,….and he's certainly no liberal. Other conservatives have as well.

Let's hope voters in Mississippi pause to reflect on what they are really voting for…..they are voting to force women, against their legal will, to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.

  • Anonymous

    Rev so often I agree with you but then you have to compare God to Hitler. Seriously? Who are the writers of the bill in Mississippi? I am surprised you are not for the democratic process of let the people vote on a subject. Let the people speak. Them passing the bill and taking away a womans right to abortion is no different than our govt making this a non-right to work state, or banning smoking in privately owned bars and restaurants and ruining our businesses or not letting govt work to lighten the load on taxpayers and maintaining services we are paying for. It's all the same, only the names have changed. Should the citizens of Miss not have the right to vote on child holocaust mills and the murder that take place there?

  • Anonymous

    The Reverend believes all women are sluts who cannot control their sexual urges, so not allowing them to kill their offspring is in effect forcing them to be pregnant. You can't get much more misogynistic than that.

  • Anonymous

    Reverend,

    Your obnoxious rhetoric makes it difficult for me to agree with you even when I agree with you. The hateful characterizations are beyond the pale.

  • Anonymous

    You know better than that. I didn't even use obnoxious language. "forced pregnancy" is a counter to the accusation by conservatives that liberals are "pro-abortion." What's good for the goose…

    If god has created man, as many, many people think, especially the kind of people who would put forward the proposition that a "fetus is a person"….then it would follow, because 50% of all fertilized eggs, naturally, do not make it…..that either god is a Hitler like character who gets a kick out of extinguishing microscopic "persons"…or forced pregnancy advocates are simply mistaken.

    Note: I heard Michael Steele last night when asked about Anne Coulter's recent blurb, "our blacks are better than their blacks", referring to Herman the Cainificant….that Anne was just being Anne, you know, being her old hyperbolic self.

    And everybody knows that I am way cooler than Anne Coulter could ever dream of being. Also, too…I have been restraining myself.

  • Anonymous

    Abortion is legal in the United States. A federal Supreme Court ruling has yet to be seriously challenged. A woman's right to choose is a guaranteed right, settled law. States do not have the power to overturn, or circumvent the extension of those federal rights by denying their female citizens their constitutional rights.

    No, a woman's right to choose is not like a right-to-work issue. Americans do not have some federal right which immunizes employees from union shop collective bargaining agreements.

    Smoking is still a legal right, as far as I know. Mississippi's referendum would take away a woman's legal right to choose.

    Mississippi can do whatever they want to do. But a state referendum to criminalize abortion, or the use of the day after pill will not stand federal scrutiny. And that's all the referendum is, an attempt to end a woman's right to choose in Mississippi.

  • Anonymous

    Abortion is legal in the U.S. Therefore, some Mississippians, and, apparently, you too, would like to choose for all pregnant women instead of obeying the law. It's so gracious of them, and you. They get to decide that Roe no longer is settled law. And that, is forcing women to be pregnant against their will. Forced-pregnancy.

    Your comment was ugly though…I'll give you that.

  • Anonymous

    I am glad it failed to pass. If did so many forms of pregnancy control as day after pill would be in jeopardy.
    Personally I think men should have little say in this issue at all. When a couple have a unwanted pregnancy, or if a woman is raped ,  it is the woman who bares the burden. Until you have walked in her shoes you should stay out  of telling her what to do .

  • Anonymous

    You must not even know how your words come across. You don't just disagree with people. You demonize them. You try to turn them into something dark and evil. You equate them with Hitler. You call them misogynists. rape and incest advocaters, anti-sex weirdos, charlatans, religious wackos, etc.  You invariably try to trash their motivations and turn them into something perverse. Your hate oozes from sentence after sentence.

    When I was growing up, I was taught that human life is sacred. That's a beuatiful belief, not something ugly.

    Simply put, you are the most obnoxious and intolerant person I know….even when I agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    Funny how you suddenly see the ugliness as soon as your own type of rhetoric is used against you. Larry's been doing that to you for a very long time, and you never catch on.

  • Anonymous

    if it would of passed they could effectively say that taking the "pill" is a form of attempted murder

  • Anonymous

    The Mississippi initiative lost by 16%.

    What that demonstrates is that even in the most blood red state of Mississippi….citizens are not in favor of taking away a woman's right to choose.

    The extremists in the forced-pregnancy movement are dangerous radicals entirely out of the mainstream.

    Just like the supply-siders.

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