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Cold, Calculated, Cash-Rewarded Lying

by The Reverend on February 3, 2010

in corruption,disinformation,economy,GOP,media


Frank Luntz, GOP "word consultant", looking like he's squeezing out another loaf of deception.

For many years now, Republicans haven't had any new policy ideas to offer to the American people. By definition, conservatism is against change…unless it's regressive (good old days and all that)…..so no new ideas coming from Republicans is to be expected. It's in the GOP DNA.

How can Republicans get away with politically battling without any new policy ideas Americans might embrace?

Deception and disinformation…..and when even that's not enough…..Republicans are encouraged to just lie about stuff.

We witnessed this dynamic during the health care reform "debate."

Here's the repellent Frank Luntz, GOP word-guru…..explaining how GOP deception and disinformation would play out in the health care back and forth….

Q: Is it a correct description of the president’s plans for reform?

Luntz: We don’t know what he is proposing. We want to avoid “a Washington takeover.”

Q: But that’s not at issue. What the Democrats want is for everyone to be able to choose between their old, private health-insurance plan and an all-new, public health-insurance option.

Luntz: I’m not a policy person. I’m a language person.

Translation: It doesn't matter what Obama or congressional Democrats proposed to reform health care…..the reform would be labeled by Republicans as "a Washington takeover".

And so it was. Luntz's "language" lesson worked it's way through the rotted and decomposed corpse we still call the American mainstream media. Tea Partiers, unhinged and incoherent…yet passionate about disliking Obama as president…..carried the "language" forward. Result? No health care reform has been passed. Luntz, Republicans, Big Insurance, Big Pharma win again…..by deception and lies….Americans lose.

But what of the veracity of the GOP talking point that Obama and the Democrats were proposing a "Washington takeover"?

Doesn't matter, policy is not my concern, said Luntz…..I'm hired to deceive people with "language."

I bring this up because fat-Frank is at it again, working with Republicans and the Banksters-Who-Ate-America to deceive voters into believing the lie that if Washington regulates Banksters, Armeggedon (or something bad) will result. Why? Because….yep, you guessed it…..government was responsible for America's financial collapse.

Huffington Post…

"If there is one thing we can all agree on, it's that the bad decisions and harmful policies by Washington bureaucrats that in many ways led to the economic crash must never be repeated," Luntz wrote. "This is your critical advantage. Washington's incompetence is the common ground on which you can build support."

"Public outrage about the bailout of banks and Wall Street is a simmering time bomb set to go off on Election Day," Luntz wrote. "Frankly, the single best way to kill any legislation is to link it to the Big Bank Bailout."

Think about what Luntz is saying. New legislation to rein in some of Wall Street's unregulated gambling schemes, the vortex of why the economy fell apart….or a new federal agency to protect consumers from the same types of trick loans which helped inflate a housing bubble…..can be defeated by Republicans by repeatedly chanting the words "Big Bank Bailout." Not because new government regulation of the Banksters wouldn't help prevent another future government bailout of same…..but because Americans recoil negatively at the words "Bank Bailout."

Luntz's deception business treats the American people like plantlife who automatically and mindlessly respond to sunlight….or in this case, lack of sunlight. Cattle easily fooled into going into the slaughter yard pen.

Personally, I dislike Frank Luntz, and have for years. He represents everything that is wrong with American politics.

But there's method and purpose in Luntz's word madness….

Think Progress

Luntz, who gained national recognition for his role in shaping the buzzword-heavy Contract for America with Newt Gingrich in 1994, has built a sizable business selling his messaging advice to both corporations and Republican campaigns.

Who might some of those "corporations" be that Luntz works for….

– Luntz client Ameriquest Mortgages: The proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA) would eliminate predatory mortgages. Ameriquest, America’s “sub-prime leader,” has been prosecuted by Attorney General Richard Blumenthal for inflating property values so borrowers could get bigger loans, imposing upfront fees without reducing interest rates as promised, and intentionally deceiving lenders with hidden penalties and interest rates on final loan documents.

– Luntz clients Merrill Lynch and Bear Stearns: Under proposed financial reform, big banks, like Luntz clients Merrill Lynch and Bear Stearns, would face a new structure designed to police financial products, prohibit predatory ones, and require clear forms and disclosures. The CFPA would also help regulate hidden bank fees and other bank abuses.

– Luntz client American Express: The CFPA would regulate the credit card industry, preventing predatory interest rates and fees.

Just as Betsy McCoy deceived and lied about health care reform because she was being paid by Big Insurance and Big Pharma…..so too Frank Luntz with the Banksters.

The crucial question now for Americans is….can corporate and GOP-paid "language" deceivers and liars fool most of the people most of the time?

I'm thinking, and especially so since the Rogue Supremes went down on Big Corporations, that the answer is….yes.

  • larry d.

    "Q: But that’s not at issue. What the Democrats want is for everyone to be able to choose between their old, private health-insurance plan and an all-new, public health-insurance option."

    Unfortunately, Obama let the cat out of the bag and admitted this was a big lie during his victorious Q&A session, Reverend. Maybe you could find a better example that doesn't highlight Democrat lies so much?

  • Andrea

    Luntz with his language of politics – and this is used by Fox all the time. They report their news with words to make something sound what it isn't.

    This is another republican deception
    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/02/02/white-house-peddles-politico-story-citing-gop-hypocricy-on-terrorist-questioning.aspx
    Hypocrisy on Terrorist Questioning and reading of Miranda rights which the republicans did under Bush

    Larry d -I have no clue what you are talking about , I listened to Obama's very successful Q & A period with the Republicans using talking points. And was very refreshing to finally have a President who could field questions without a script

  • angry conserv

    You have to love it . Have any of you libs. listened to your man? Granted Reps. lie but no more than Obama. Also would someone ask Obama to quit whinning it is becoming embarrassing.

  • The Reverend

    Andrea and I would like you, larry, to expand on your Q. a bit. I think I know what you're getting at but I'm not positive.

    angry….I've been listening and watching very carefully, and while I don't agree with every action or position Obama is taking or making, I don't see him lying wholesale like Luntz and his GOP buddies constantly conspire to do. I didn't see it when Obama was campaigning…I don't see it now. Sure, Democrats have a rhetorical strategy, it just doesn't include blatant lying.

    Andrea….yep, the Miranda and the enemy combatant nonsense is starting to wear on me. I have a draft post started on Susan Collins and her zany and unhinged comments recently….I'll try to get it posted.

    Conservatives often tease and mock the Teleprompter-in-Chief, however, when Obama was slaying the GOP wingers in the Q & A session, he slayed them without the prompter. And he performed outstandingly while doing the slaying.

    Anyone remember the Chimp answering questions from far-left House Democrats on the teevee? Anyone?

  • Da King

    C'mon now, Rev. In a post with the word "lying" right in the title, you start right off with this lie:

    "For many years now, Republicans haven't had any new policy ideas to offer to the American people. By definition, conservatism is against change…unless it's regressive (good old days and all that)…..so no new ideas coming from Republicans is to be expected. It's in the GOP DNA."

    Untrue. Tort reform, nationwide insurance competition, making health insurance tax deductible…..those are a few GOP ideas on just the issue raised in your post. How are those ideas not ideas ?

    Then you started calling Tea Partiers names…..AGAIN. This is so tired and juvenile. I just stopped reading.

    But let me ask you, Rev. Do you really support this ObamaCare debacle ? Really ? You think it's a good bill ? Tell the truth.

  • larry d.

    During the Q&A, Obama plainly admitted that many Americans would not have been able to keep the insurance plans they are happy with if the reform effort had succeeded, Andrea. He'd been lying all along.

  • The Reverend

    Are you talking about Medicare Advantage?

  • larry d.

    He didn't say Medicare Advantage, Reverend.

  • Andrea

    I don't recall him saying that at all and I heard the entire thing, but I am sure you can find it here if he did and post the part where he said it for us
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/01/obamas-qa-with-house-republica.html
    If the plan was to go into effect (the pubic option ) You would stay on your insurance plan as long as your employer decides he wants to stay with it. This is how it is now , we are at the mercy of our employer (or at least most of us are) they can drop our plan and take on a cheaper one, a more expensive one or one with less benefits. That will not change. His pubic option only effected the uninsured.

  • The Reverend

    I wasn't responding to King. I was responding to you, larry.

    I wrote a post entitled "Kill the Bill"….does that sound like I wanted that version passed?

    Then I wrote a post saying "Sucker Punch 'Em" in which I described what Democrats should do. Go the 51 vote route in the Senate and ram through whatever can be rammed through. Public option, expansion of Medicare, whatever.

    King…when I was talking about the lack of GOP new ideas….your answer was exactly the point I was getting at. None of that stuff you mention was new…..simply retreads. Tort reform, tax code changes that mostly benefit the wealthiest…..same old.

    I meant NEW ideas.

  • larry d.

    I was talking about Obama, not King, Reverend. Here's what Obama said, with kudos to Andrea for supplying the link:

    "For example — for example, you know, we said from the start that — that it was going to be important for us to be consistent in saying to people if you can have your — if you want to keep the health insurance you've got, you can keep it; that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision-making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge."

    Where was he with this information before the votes in congress were being tallied? Didn't he constantly promise this was not in the reform plan? Does anyone doubt he would have signed whatever bill would have ultimately passed through Congress?

  • The Reverend

    Obama is a pragmatist. He doesn't expect perfection and ideological purity before moving forward.

    I still don't understand what Obama was talking about. If it was Medicare Advantage folks…..they don't need the "extra" services over and above Medicare just so Medicare dollars can be turned into corporate profits.

    And I would add this……very few people with health care coverage now can choose their doctors. That's a fact. Arguably, you can choose your personal family doctor, but any specialists you might require are chosen for you by the "network." That's what our current for-profit system offers…..so what's the complaint again?

  • larry d.

    The complaint is Obama has been lying about Obamacare for the past two years, Reverend. Ideological purity doesn't have anything to do with it, outside the fact that his willingness to lie in this regard illustrates the fact that reform was more about government control than the health of Americans.

  • The Reverend

    What you're avoiding is the reality, which Obama understands, that legislation is never, really, about getting 100% of what one person would like.

    Conservatives….Republicans have taken the word "compromise" out of their lexicon. Reagan wept.

    Maybe that's why you're having some difficulty understanding Obama. He's a realist, a pragmatist. Republicans are stonewalling, all-or-nothing, ideologues.

    It's all understandable because Republicans do not accept the reality of governance. Government, the same government GOP'ers are elected to, is antithetical to Republicanism.

    Weird bunch….Republicans.

  • larry d.

    That Americans would not have to give up the insurance plans they already had was THE central premise Obama pushed repeatedly every time he talked about ObamaCare, Reverend. He was lying and so are you.

  • The Reverend

    Sorry. I'm not lying.

    Did Obama get everything that he wanted in the Congressional bill? No.

    Does that mean Obama is a liar? Only to dead enders.

  • larry d.

    I'll give you a pass because you are delusional but it was Obama's central claim and he knew it to be false all along. That's lying.

  • The Reverend

    You read minds now.

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