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Sucker Punch 'Em

by The Reverend on January 23, 2010

in GOP,health care,media

From my December 17, 2009 blog post….

Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) have the right idea….table this Christmas present to Big Insurance and Big Pharma….and go the route of reconciliation where 51 votes are all that are required to pass genuine health care reform for the American people.

If the Republicans, and the Village that loves them, don't like it and throw a fit…..they can go pound salt.

What has been passed before under the 51 vote threshold of the "reconciliation" process..

Twenty-two reconciliation bills were passed between 1980 and 2008,….

Whether reducing or increasing deficits, many of the reconciliation bills made major changes in policy. Health insurance portability (COBRA), nursing home standards, expanded Medicaid eligibility, increases in the earned income tax credit, welfare reform, the state Children's Health Insurance Program, major tax cuts and student aid reform were all enacted under reconciliation procedures. Health reform 2009 style would be the most ambitious use of reconciliation but it fits a pattern used over three decades by both parties to avoid the strictures of Senate filibusters.

The devastating second round of Bush-Cheney tax cuts in 2003 were passed using the reconciliation process. The Dick, himself, had to cast the 51st vote in order to change existing tax law. Republicans simply never even considered using the normal legislative route when it came to cutting more taxes for their already-rich friends. Needing 60 Senate votes, which Republicans incessantly screech about today over health care reform, was never even considered in 2003.

That 2003 tax cut bill passed by Republicans with 51 votes in the Senate, using the reconciliation process, added some $343 billion to our national deficit. In contrast, the Democrats health care reform proposals of 2009 wouldn't have added anything to the deficit, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

According to conserva-Dem and gleeful Democratic Party basher, Chris Matthews,….

Matthews: You can't create a program through reconciliation! Congressman just name me the program that's ever been created through reconciliation!

Alan Grayson(D-FLA): Tax cuts for the rich!

Matthews: That's not a program. Under reconciliation you're allowed to do two things. Change fiscal numbers, raise taxes or cut spending.

Matthews, a sucker for Commander Codpiece types, and currently swooning with an apparent man-crush on the new GOP senator Scott Brown (R-MA)….arrogantly dismissed any such talk of passing health care reform through the reconciliation process. But Chrissy, despite having some trouble with his own gender identification, is mistaken…..believing instead, that Senate Democrats won't have the stomach to ramrod legislation through like George and The Dick did.

I have some ideas. Medicare and Medicaid are existing programs written into U.S. law decades ago…..just like tax rate laws existed in 2001 and 2003. Medicare and Medicaid could be expanded, as necessary, using the reconciliation process which requires only 51 votes for passage.

Perhaps a mandate that every American must purchase health care insurance doesn't meet the reconciliation guidelines…..but as George and The Dick proved, raising taxes to pay for an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid could be passed under reconciliation.

Villagers, like Matthews,….and all Republicans and conservatives, will wear themselves out telling Americans that reconciliation can't be used to pass health care reform. As usual, they will be wrong. But that won't stop them from lying about it……remember, they spent the whole of 2009 lying and reporting on conservative lies, without telling us they were reporting lies.

What Villagers, like Matthews, are doing is what they've been doing for the last 20 years……taunting Democrats and progressives to stand down and let the minority Republicans have their way. And that's probably what will happen again now, just like it happened in the 90's.

But it doesn't have to be that way. What Americans want from the Democratic majority they sent to D.C…..is a fight. A fight against the entrenched Big Money interests that have dictated the terms under which America has existed for way too long. A fight against the ridiculously corrupt and reckless Republican obstructionists.

Announcing that they will use the reconciliation process to reform health care would be the appropriate Democratic sucker punch to throw right now. Americans would cheer.

  • averagejoe5

    What conservative lies throughout 2009?

    There are some things that need the rec vote and some things that need a sweeping major majority vote. Healthcare and capntrade, things that will be nation altering must have a super majority vote. These things wll cost Americans 10's of trillions of dollars as well as 100's of thousands of sacrificed jobs. A needed tax cut of 5 billion dollars to stimulate business growth and increase gdp and revenues is not a big thing because America will get that money back in increased jobs as was proven by Bushes 4.5-5% unemployment compared to the threat of huge taxes and the 18% in actual unemployment we enjoy today.
    There are definitions in Wikipedia that explain the legislation concerning the qualifications of a recon vote.
    Sometimes I feel so sorry for the left. They are always the victims that want to change the law when things don't go thier way. This reminds me of how they wanted to throw out the whole voting process because Gore supposedly had the majority vote but didn't recieve enough electoral college votes. If the rules don't benefit them, then throw them out so we have to accomodate them.

    I still wonder why all of these changes that Obama wants to instill won't start for 5 to 10 years and we will be taxed for them now.

    Also Rev why when you write about topics do you personally attack the ones you disagree with in your writings. IE: Chrissy? Mancrush? Questioning and hinting that he was gay like it was some sort of a disease. Harsh words from a supporter of gay marriage and former lover(not in a gay way) and defender of Chris Matthews. Then accusing him of being a conservative sympathizer when you know Obama is the only man for him. Obama sends orgasmic tingles up his legs in the same way as Obama was attracted to his former limo driver.

  • larry d.

    They're going to at least pretend not to ram things through like you'd like because the dems in congress are afraid of getting chased out of their hometown pizza parlors by angry mobs of citizens, Reverend.

    The gig is up and Americans are on to you communists!

  • Roy

    Just a point of fact Rev. Bush nor Cheney served in the Senate so all of this talk of them ramming legislation through is bullshit. Sure they had an agenda but it was voted on by members of congress. Cheney voted once to break a tie. That's it. How can you be so tremendously ignorant?

  • Martin

    Yeah,go on and pass HC by reconciliation progressives-while your at it pass cap-n-trade too. I love it!! The baystate has dissed "Teddies seat" and elected a republican. Keep it up!! Keep pushing your big government agenda spend and tax.

  • angry conserv

    How about this novel approach to health care. Wash. trumpets the potential cost savings by becoming more efficent and eliminating fraud and adjusting minor rules and regulations. Great start with demonstrating the cost savings that will allow us to include millions that dont have access(legal citizens only) or cant afford health care. I dont have a problem paying a little more to cover the unfortunates but I sure as hell dont want to be forced to support another never ending black hole that isnt be fiscally sound or sturcturally sound.
    Yea I know another pipe dream.

  • The Reverend

    At least you're reasonable about it, angry.

  • Tbomb

    The Kaiser Family Foundation has just published the results of a recent poll about the HCB, and surprisingly, it's quite popular when people learn what's actually IN the bill.

  • larry d.

    Lol, Tbomb.

  • The Reverend

    As usual Tbomb….none of the conservative screeching has anything to do with substance.

    Conservative hacks, like Matthews for example, just make sh*t up…..and that makes the easily-amused, you know, amused.

  • Natural Selection

    AngryCon, the "unfortunates" are generally nothing more than lazy, hyper-breeding dregs of society. I have no desire to give them another dime, including anymore health care. Actually, I would like to sterilize them and and then pull all of their welfare benefits. All social services should have a lifetime maximum based on your previous tax contributions, taken directly from your Social Security statement. No work. No check. Ever.

    Regardless, those of us that are smart, have spent the past two years reducing our tax burden. There are many ways to do it. I PROMISE that I will not be contributing to this mess.

  • averagejoe5

    Tbomb what link are you using because if you google search it all that comes up is that the Kaiser Foundation says the bill needs to worked on. There are some good points and some bad no one is disputing this. However the cost and it's disasterous effect it would have on our economy is scaring people.

    Rev from what I see Tbomb is not making stuff up, just twisiting the truth a little. You are taking his word and emphasizing it to be corrrect and anyone that disagrees with it is an idiot. Come on now, you are taking the word of someone whose greatest contribution to these posts has been the phrase "oink oink". Sort of like taking the word of Olby. When did Chris Matthews become a conservative? when he started not agreeing with your opinion? You had him first, we don't want him. He is a lib through and through including his sexual confusion. I bet he wishes he was Obama's limo driver.

    Natural Selection thank you for bringing out the real feelings of the Dem/Lib party. Most of them would rather sterilze their constituents or kill their offspring because they are too stupid and lazy to control themselves. King, help me here, which of Obama's czar's or hero's actually endorsed this behavior. Also a great Dem did propose that there be a maximum benefit. It was the first black president…Bill Clinton. However most of the dregs have no work history therefore they have paid no tax. They just exist. Just ask my 3 cousins that have about 15 kids between them. I wish tbomb would start paying them some child support. (I'm kidding, I made up that line about tbomb)

  • Andrea

    Take away the right to filibuster. Never was in the constitution to begin with . When you have a party of conservatives they will always want to keep the status quo. So they are going to vote no for just about every proposal from the other side. Have you ever heard of an entire party voting against a bill? Only the repubicans do that. When you have a party that does not want the other side to pass anything and sticks together, you have to go with a majority vote only.

  • The Reverend

    Precisely.

    Conservatives believe government is the problem in our lives. Liberals believe government can be the solution, on occasion.

    Americans on Social Security get an envelope every month which says, basically, 'hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.' I've never ever heard of a Social Security recipient refusing to cash one of those checks…..and I never heard one say that the money didn't, you know, help them.

    How could Father Ronald be so wrong? It's a let down, isn't it?

  • larry d.

    Why would anyone refuse to cash a check from a system they've been forced to pay in to for the past 40 years, Reverend? Your rationale is preposterous, again.

  • Tbomb

    Avg., some good stuff on the poll at fivethirtyeight.com on 1/23/10

  • averagejoe5

    TBomb – Very good. There are some things that I really think we need in a healthcare bill. I am right in line with much of the poll. I think the govt is out of touch with this and are playing politics with our future at stake. No one is saying there aren't good points to Healthcare reform, I agree it is needed. Or that all of the stuff in the congressional bills is all bad. I also have a feeling that healthcare reform wasn't the only reason Brown won. I think people are beginning to see how our govt is working and they dont like it. Not just the Dems but the Republicans also. The people want a change that will create growth and prosperity in our country. Not a take from the rich and give to the poor tax increase scheme. Our govt is scurrying around like rats making backdoor and midnight deals and it seems as thought our pres is disconnected from what the people want and need, as was Bush. Bush was the reason McCain didnt win for that very reason. Maybe we dont really need change as in Obama change maybe we just need to fine tune what we have and enforce the laws and regulations already on the books

    I agree Rev about SS. But look at what the govt has done to it. They have stole it from the people that contibuted to it so much that they are now cutting benefits.

  • Da King

    You are really showing your ignorance on this one, Rev. And I loved where you called Chris Matthews a "conservative hack." That bit of wacked-out invention was worth the price of admission.

    The reconciliation process has been used many times for BUDGET RESOLUTIONS (that's spending, revenue, debt-limits). That includes the Bush tax cuts. The reconciliation process is not supposed to be used to pass a major legislative agenda.

    The Republicans contemplated the same thing back in 2005 with the nuclear option to stop Democrats from continually blocking judicial appointments. I was against the nuclear option then, and I'm still against it now. If they can change the rules at their whim, there's no point to the rules in the first place. The supermajority exists so that legislation, especially major legislation like ObamaCare, will have at least some degree of wide support, which ObamaCare most definitely does not.

    If it was the Republicans trying to do this sort of thing, the Reverend would be spouting off about the "tyranny of the majority" and "unilateralism." But when the Dems do it, the Rev says the GOP can "pound salt." You have no principles, Rev. They shift like sand beneath your feet.

    If the Dems pass ObamaCare via reconciliation, the Democrats will get murdered at the voting booth come november. So, by all means, go ahead, be principle-free tyrants. I love it when you expose yourselves for what you are.

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