New Extremist Attack?

I don't understand how the Nigerian terrorist could have had a valid U.S. visa when Richard Clarke warned us about the terrorist threat over 8 years ago, and the U.S. knew about this guy's jihadist beliefs 6 months ago. Weird, huh ? Sounds like another one fell through the cracks, just like with the Ft. Hood jihadist. Let's see, what event took place in the U.S. within the last year that might have changed the seriousness with which we regard the threat of terrorism ?……..hmmm. That's a poser, alright.

Another terrorist attack within our borders under Obama's watch. One wonders how many terrorists have been emboldened by his weakness and stupidity these last 11 months. In any case, it's clear the country is less safe under his leadership.

So larry you are saying that because of a skinny weak knee BLACK President the terroists now want to blow themselves up on a plane but under the Texas fake cowboy WHITE Tuff president they didn't want to and were too scared to blow themselves up . Conservative wacko logic
Why Larry ? What has actually changed since Bush ? Has any security measures changed ? NO –
The lapse occurred where – Over seas – did they screw up – yep – can we also screw up yep But will it have anything to do with Obama vrs Bush .

Cause you know what larry D – your logic makes no sense since actually Obama just ordered more troops to Afghanistan – So if fighting them over there is your reason why they won't come here – you can see they still can come here -
The only thing that stop them is intelligence used wisely and in this case they did not hand search him carefully enough considering the warning given. But has nothing to do with Obama.

Oh, the race card. How refreshing, Andrea. How do you rationalize making race a chip in an argument with a stranger on a blog? Why can't you think of Obama as a U.S. President, rather than a "black President"? Maybe you should get some sensitivity counseling or something.

As far as the terrorism is concerned, I just know we've been having a lot of attacks within our borders since Obama took over. Meanwhile, N. Korea shoots missiles towards Hawaii, Iran seizes an Iraqi oil well, the Russians start a new nuclear missile program, etc., etc. It's obvious that our rivals see him as a weakling. But I guess you're telling me "weakling" and "black" are the same thing.

Instead of confronting the Islamic extremism headon for the international police enforcement problem that it was…..the last administration decided to no longer "swat at flies"….but, instead, occupy Muslim countries with hundreds of thousands of U.S. military personnel and private contractors. In so doing, we have killed upwards to a million Muslims….which only made the Islamic extremism problem worse.

The previous president liked to talk cheap using belligerent talk, the kind of tough talk larry, apparently, thinks is a solution to something…..but what he and his torture buddy have done is enflame even more hatred….making everyone less safe.

Obama has avoided the stupid cowboy, "dead or alive", "axis of evil", talk…..in an attempt to restore America's lost dignity and respect. But, the Terror Twins did so much long lasting damage, we'll be dealing with these "terror" incidents for generations.

Conservatives who rail on Obama, criticizing him for not acting like the nuts that left office this past January, purposely or not, are yearning for the return of the stupid cowboy talk that only makes the problem worse. It's ignorant and childish thinking.

Trying to score political points by ridiculously adding up one-off criminal events and claiming that we've been kept safe until this new president was sworn in…..is not only dishonest….it's ignorant.

First of all, we haven't killed a million Muslims, Rev. That phony figure is pulled out of thin air.

Secondly, if it's Bush's foreign policy that is causing the terrorist attacks, how do you explain all the terrorist attacks BEFORE Bush responded FOLLOWING 9/11 ?

Maybe Obama can apologize to all the terrorists. I'm sure that would work. Or we could just surrender and enact the Caliphate the terrorists want. Problem solved.

larry,
Obama said he is "monitoring" the Nigerian terrorist situation. No worries. He may even have a meeting about it. I'm waiting for him to tell us not to overreact and bash Muslims. That's the usual lib tactic.

Rev says, "Trying to score political points by ridiculously adding up one-off criminal events…"

Um, isn't that EXACTLY what you tried to do with 9/11, the murder of Dr. Tiller, the suicide of Kentucky census worker Bill Sparkman, etc, etc ? It sure is. Trying to take "one-off criminal events" and using them to score political points is your modus operandi. My comment about Richard Clarke was just a little payback.

We killed a million muslims? What lib blogger/news source did that number come from Rev? Typical hype. I guess we could then use the same logic on abortion. Compared to Saddam Hussein our legalized holocaust allowed by our lib govt and their blood money supporters(special interest and death doctor profiteers) is nothing when compared to his murdering of his people.

Why the defense of terrorists. Why the minimalization of their actions? Why do they want us dead? We are the last of the territories that that can't conquer. This is their muslim dark ages as the Christians had in the early 1000's. They will conquer us from inside. Now we have a muslim president and other muslim leadership in our congress. We now sypathize with this group more than any other. Should we? Do we follow Jesus' example of turn the other cheek when our enemies attack us? That is what the libs would have us do. Should we capture them and try to analyze their inner child.
The ones that hate us now hate us because they were indoctrinated by their terrorist leaders to do so. You can't stop that. An example is why did the Christians want to to kill the Druids / jews and other non believers? Their "god" told their leaders to do so in his name. Was killing others in Jesus' name anywhere in the Bible? No it was the Church of Rome leadership that started this. That is why in France when they try to rehab the terrorists they go right back to being terrorists, it's the way they were programmed.
Here is a unique comparison. Muslims get 72 virgins for martyrdom. Christians in the dark ages were given salvation from their sins for joining gods army. Do you think you could have changed the average soldiers mind when their choices were fighting honorably in gods army and going to heaven as compared to being sent to a burning lake of fire? No brainer. That's where we are with todays extremist groups. In my opinion.

"Until we lessen the desire of young Muslims to blow us the hell up….these things will continue to happen. American leadership, still, has not fully confronted the fact that we are creating many of our own problems."

What is your solution, leave Iraq, leave AG, quit buying Saudi oil, adopt Sharia Law here in the USA? YOU can not give into irrational hate, to do so will embolden the radical muslims. To solve the problem is exactly what we are doing, only we need to be more politically committed, we need mid east governments who will not tolerate terrorism, will not support terrorism and allow radical extremism inside their borders. As long as radical imams hold sway, and fools like Amedienejad, think that the best thing for the world is a coming of the end of days, we will not be safe. So killing terrorists is the only way to reduce the threat. And in order to do that effectively we need a presence in Islamic nations to draw terrorists to our guns, like moths to a flame, and snuff them out.

Larry I am sorry you didn't GET what I wrote and why. I was RIDULING YOU and the rights stupid thinking . It is idiotic to try to score political points every time a terrorist attack or attempt happens especially when Nothing has changed except the "face" of the leader. You are calling Obama weak and that's why we had a attempted attack- as in what way ? WHAT WAY IS HE WEAK ?
As in sending more troops to Afghanistan ? Has any security measure changed since last December ? NO they havent
Whats your logic- and why ? because we plan to close Gitmo is that why he is weak ? I am guessing because You apparently cant say why so I have to guess what your thinking is –
the terrorist now felt he should blow himself up I guess because ummm Obama plans to close Gitmo is that it ? Gitmo or no Gitmo makes no difference to him .

Why you insist that "weak=black" is beyond me but to each her own, I guess Andrea. What insulting adjective to you equate with hispanics?

Andrea says, " It is idiotic to try to score political points every time a terrorist attack or attempt happens especially when Nothing has changed except the "face" of the leader"

What short memories liberals have. Y'all excoriated Bush after 9/11, and even made up elaborate conspiracy theories that he was involved in it. I know it must hurt when your own behavior comes back to bite you.

But I appreciate you admitting that liberals are idiotic. That's way overdue.

Agree w/ Larry above. Racist.

Also, "we" have killed "a million Muslims"? Moral equivalency. Stupid. Also, worthless. We're in a war, right? So who cares how many "Muslims" have been killed – unless Rev is actually trying to make the case that Americans are committing genocide a la Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc around the world? I wonder if Rev would have done a lot of hand-wringing over the "millions" of Europeans and Asians FDR and Truman killed? (By the way, FDR and Truman killed a lot more Europeans and Asians than Bush and Obama have killed "Muslims".)

Again: Agree w/ Larry above. Why can't people like Andrea get past how black the President is? Racists.

Da King – I never made any stories that Bush was involved in causing 9/11 . However that is a different story because bush had received a warning and wasn't partially even interested in combating terrorism until 9/11 . Yet the right wing wanted to make him as some hero for keeping us safe. So while he wasn't responsible he also was asleep on the job when came to terrorism up until 9/11 .

Now larry d made a right wing talking point trying to blame Obama for the terrorist attack because he says it was because of his weakness and his stupidity the last few months . So I wanted him to explain that statement. If you can make such a statement then I think you can also say why . But doesn't seem like he can. So my guess was he made this statement because of another reason . Or do you just spew out words like Sarah Palin does and just say anything ridiculous and never back it up with anything factual.

What did the Obama administration do that was weak and stupid that might have caused a terrorist to go on the plane to blow himself up? I ASK AGAIN? The only stupid thing I see being done is having a terrorist watch list and not hand screening someone whose on it before he goes on a plane. But that happened overseas and has also happened under Bush's watch also .

The most stupid thing now to do now is to react to this attempted attack and believe that the wars overseas will keep America safe from terrorism or as in Bush case start another one. Now that will be stupid. And that has been the right wing talking point for a long time "we are safe here if we fight em over there" . Bull sh#t

Thanks, Andrea, for proving my point about how liberals blamed Bush for 9/11.

Here's something we can do. When Muslim extremists like the Fort Hood shooter or the Nigerian airplane bomber start spouting their jihadism, get them off military bases and keep them off airplanes. Even if you don't believe we're at war with dark forces, the dark forces are at war with us, and they were at war with us before Bush ever went into Afghanistan or Iraq. Sticking our heads in the sand isn't going to help.

Most everything Obama does as far as foreign relations projects weakness, Andrea. Apologizing for the U.S. overseas, implying the U.S. is to blame for terrorism to some extent, caving to the Russians on missile defense, hesitating to criticize the bogus elections in Iran, bowing to foreign heads of state, etc., etc. The list goes on.

Now your turn–you still haven't explained why you equate weakness with blackness, or told me what pejorative you equate with hispanics.

average says….

"Why the defense of terrorists. Why the minimalization of their actions? Why do they want us dead? We are the last of the territories that that can't conquer. This is their muslim dark ages as the Christians had in the early 1000's. They will conquer us from inside. Now we have a muslim president and other muslim leadership in our congress. We now sypathize with this group more than any other."

Not defending violence of any type. But, seriously average…..do you really believe what you wrote here? We have a "muslim president." Really? Muslims will "conquer us from inside." Really? We "sympathize with this group." Honestly….Really?

Very good comment Andrea.

larry has been hypnotized by Commander Guy and His Dick. larry mistakenly equates braggodosio and trash talk with "projecting strength." And because Obama does not talk trash, acts respectfully towards other world leaders and admits to reality-based U.S. history….refusing to hegemonically knee-jerk his way around other countries problems…Obama is projecting "weakness."

American neo-cons seem to want to be led from the top by a guy similar to Jack Bauer…even though…umm…Bauer is make believe.

You know, I could be wrong. But I'm not.

So you are supporting Andrea's theory that weakness=blackness, Reverend? How does that work? What pejorative do you assign to hispanics? Jews? How about the "yellow" and "red" man?

It is a fact that part of the opposition to Obama is because he is a black man. I don't even think that you, larry, would disagree with that. We may differ on the percentages of the opposition….but not the core issue.

Is it fair to accuse all conservatives, or anti-Obamans, of being racist? Of course not…..and I didn't read Andrea saying that.

It's not a "core issue." The man's incompetence is. Equating incompetence with his race is where the racism enters the equation and the vast majority of that notion is coming from the left.

I think the only fact here is that liberals BELIEVE Obama's opposition is racist in nature. It's one of the most pathetic liberal arguments going.

Obama's race is irrelevant to the rest of us, with the exception of the true racists (skinheads, KKK, Aryan Nation, etc), and those people don't matter anyway. Everyone reviles them, regardless of partisan allegiance or political ideology.

About the only time I think of Obama's race is when some stupid liberal dishonestly uses it as part of a political argument. We're almost in the year 2010. This isn't 1860 or even 1964. If race was still a "core issue" or a major factor, Obama wouldn't have won the presidency. He wouldn't even have come close. He'd have been a fringe candidate.

Get over it.

Okay….Obama's fierce opposition, which started before he was elected, you know…..with the Obama pancakes and the nooses, and the witch-doctors, "magic Negro" songs, etc……have nothing, whatsoever, to do with racial animosities.

I only imagined that stuff. I'll just have to get over it…I guess.

The "core issue" I referred to was the fact that "part of the opposition to Obama is because he is a black man." That fact remains….while I admitted that not all Obama opposition is because of his race. I said "part". King and larry ignored that point.

No, you didn't imagine it. You just exaggerated the hell out of it (although I don't remember seeing any nooses or witch-doctors) for phony political reasons.

And the magic Negro thing originated from a liberal.

Question for stupid liberals – Were there any hangings in effigy of Bush ? Any funny pictures portraying him as a chimpanzee, Bush in clown makeup, etc ?

Answer – Of course there were. It happens with every president, yet all of a sudden, when it happens with Obama, stupid liberals use it to beat the race drum till the cows come home, ignorant dishonest freaks that they are.

Okay, Rev, I'll bite. What part of Obama's opposition is racist in your view ? 90% ? 75% ? 50% ? Or a percent too small to even matter ?

I say it's a percent too small to matter. The overwhelming majority of Americans could give a damn about Obama's race. They only care about his policies. The only ones I ever hear bring up his race is stupid liberals.

See? That's the problem. King doesn't "see" the nooses and the Obama witchdoctor with a bone through his nose. King doesn't "see" them….so they never existed.

larry steered the comment thread towards the race card…blaming Andrea for it.
The post was about the underpants bomber guy and why guys like him want to hurt Americans.