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	<title>Comments on: Vote No On Ohio Initiatives</title>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2009/10/28/vote-no-on-ohio-initiatives/ID=8511/comment-page-1/#comment-11142</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; leaving guns alone and quit giving handouts to people who do not want to work for a living,&quot;

I actually think there&#039;s common ground to be found on those two issues, as well. I am a liberal, and I don&#039;t want to ban gun ownership. Liberals believe that guns should be closely regulated. Conservatives are, I think, split on regulation. Everyone recognizes that we can&#039;t go around with rocket launchers on our shoulders....point being that limits are essential. However, farther to the right conservatives lobby against any restrictions. So...it&#039;s an argument.

Welfare is another one. Everyone on both sides support individual responsibility. Conservatives may disagree with that statement, but there&#039;s evidence to support it. It&#039;s how that support of personal responsibility is implemented into policies where the sides differ. Conservatives don&#039;t want people to starve to death and liberals don&#039;t want to take all the rich man&#039;s money and give it to sluggards. 

These are arguments that are worthy of democratic discourse, too bad all we have is media-circus performers directing that discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034; leaving guns alone and quit giving handouts to people who do not want to work for a living,&#034;</p>
<p>I actually think there&#039;s common ground to be found on those two issues, as well. I am a liberal, and I don&#039;t want to ban gun ownership. Liberals believe that guns should be closely regulated. Conservatives are, I think, split on regulation. Everyone recognizes that we can&#039;t go around with rocket launchers on our shoulders&#8230;.point being that limits are essential. However, farther to the right conservatives lobby against any restrictions. So&#8230;it&#039;s an argument.</p>
<p>Welfare is another one. Everyone on both sides support individual responsibility. Conservatives may disagree with that statement, but there&#039;s evidence to support it. It&#039;s how that support of personal responsibility is implemented into policies where the sides differ. Conservatives don&#039;t want people to starve to death and liberals don&#039;t want to take all the rich man&#039;s money and give it to sluggards. </p>
<p>These are arguments that are worthy of democratic discourse, too bad all we have is media-circus performers directing that discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. How can this be ? The Rev is making sense here, presenting logical arguments.

Wait a minute. Am I being punked ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. How can this be ? The Rev is making sense here, presenting logical arguments.</p>
<p>Wait a minute. Am I being punked ??</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hubbs....me, considered to be a conservative? In some dreamscape, perhaps.

Now see?, I would have thought that conservatives would have been FOR Issue 2. You know, farmers against animal rights people....but I guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hubbs&#8230;.me, considered to be a conservative? In some dreamscape, perhaps.</p>
<p>Now see?, I would have thought that conservatives would have been FOR Issue 2. You know, farmers against animal rights people&#8230;.but I guess not.</p>
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		<title>By: hubbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did somebody kill The Reverend and hijack his column??

Seriously, Kudos, Rev on your logical thinking...I bet if &quot;individuals&quot; and &quot;parties&quot; were taken out of politics, you would actually have a chance at being termed a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did somebody kill The Reverend and hijack his column??</p>
<p>Seriously, Kudos, Rev on your logical thinking&#8230;I bet if &#034;individuals&#034; and &#034;parties&#034; were taken out of politics, you would actually have a chance at being termed a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Straight Outta Pripyat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Straight Outta Pripyat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  And for all of the same reasons that you do, Rev.  Now, if I could just get the Rev. to talk his Dem buddies into leaving guns alone and quit giving handouts to people who do not want to work for a living, we can all live in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  And for all of the same reasons that you do, Rev.  Now, if I could just get the Rev. to talk his Dem buddies into leaving guns alone and quit giving handouts to people who do not want to work for a living, we can all live in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See? And you guys probably thought you couldn&#039;t find any common ground with The Reverend. Au contraire. 

N.E.....I checked....didn&#039;t see your &quot;me too&quot; comment in there somewhere. I promise...I would never censor anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See? And you guys probably thought you couldn&#039;t find any common ground with The Reverend. Au contraire. </p>
<p>N.E&#8230;..I checked&#8230;.didn&#039;t see your &#034;me too&#034; comment in there somewhere. I promise&#8230;I would never censor anything.</p>
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		<title>By: N. E. Frye</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. E. Frye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. 
There&#039;s a missing comment which only said, &quot;Me too.&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.<br />
There&#039;s a missing comment which only said, &#034;Me too.&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: N. E. Frye</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. E. Frye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;ve already said it why isn&#039;t it there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#039;ve already said it why isn&#039;t it there?</p>
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		<title>By: Quidpro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quidpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reverand,

Once I again I find myself in the strange and rare position of agreeing with your post.  Our reasoning may be different, but the conclusions are the same.  All three issues should be defeated by the voters next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverand,</p>
<p>Once I again I find myself in the strange and rare position of agreeing with your post.  Our reasoning may be different, but the conclusions are the same.  All three issues should be defeated by the voters next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Rev.  I agree on all counts especially Issue 3.  The last thing we need is for Dan Gilbert to get exclusive access to build a casino in downtown Cleveland.

#1) Fiscally it just doesn&#039;t make sense right now.
#2) More layers of bureaucracy and regulations won&#039;t help farmers.
#3) This should be opened up and licenses should be auctioned off to the higher bidder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Rev.  I agree on all counts especially Issue 3.  The last thing we need is for Dan Gilbert to get exclusive access to build a casino in downtown Cleveland.</p>
<p>#1) Fiscally it just doesn&#039;t make sense right now.<br />
#2) More layers of bureaucracy and regulations won&#039;t help farmers.<br />
#3) This should be opened up and licenses should be auctioned off to the higher bidder.</p>
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