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Humans will lie about almost anything…..check that….Humans will lie about anything. I'm not sure whether the human habit of lying can be attributed to evolution or not. Perhaps we have been programmed over 15,000 years or so to deceive other humans for self-preservation purposes.
Whatever the reason…..dishonesty, lying, deception….have always been human traits.
In the 90's, the last time we had a Democratic president, rich conservatives took it upon themselves to orchestrate a mass media lying and smearing campaign against Bill Clinton. Clinton, according to those widely circulated lies, was a drug runner, a murderer, a real estate scammer and a serial rapist. None of those lies were true but they were continually repeated by the liars and then, by those who believed, or wanted to believe the lies.
One year after Justice Scalia appointed George W. Bush president, the lies and deceptions by Dick Cheney and his band of PNAC warmongering crusaders led to the senseless murders of 4400 U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Corporate media, with very few exceptions, helped Cheney spread those lies. The lies were spread from the "liberal" NY Times' Judith Miller directly to the late Tim Russert's Meet the Press on "liberal" NBC……the network that Mary Matalin, Cheney's political advisor, said was the best for getting Cheney's "message" out.
Cheney's lies and deceptions worked. Iraq posed no threat to the U.S., wasn't involved with 9-11, and had no ties to Islamic extremists. Iraq had been decimated from a decade of U.S flyover bombings and painful sanctions. Yet, the corporate media's wholesale spreading of Cheney's lies coupled with America's still fresh emotions of vengeance from 9-11, led this country into what is still considered a disaster today inside Iraq.
Believing in lies often leads to dire consequences. Such is Iraq.
Now with Cheney gone, except for appearances on corporate-whore teevee, incoherent sore-loser Tea Partiers, like the arrival of the Holy Ghost in the book of Acts, have had the deceptive-working power of Dick Cheney wash over them like flames of fire. Tea Partiers, or 9-12'ers if you prefer, though not as polished a group as their Dark Master, have been as successful as The Dick was in deceiving the overall public.
I wonder how many needless deaths will happen this time.
The Twelvers lie about virtually everything. They lie about an already partially socialized America becoming "socialist." They lie about Obama's desire to kill the elderly. They lie about Democratic health care legislation covering undocumenteds. They lie about Obamacare mandating tax dollars to be used for abortion. They lie about Obama's citizenship. They deceptively compare Obama with Hitler, Castro, Mao, and Stalin. They falsely assert that they "want their country back", when their country hasn't gone anywhere.
They even lie about how many Twelvers showed up in D.C. last Saturday.
Tea Partiers, now imbued with the Evil Lying Spirit of Richard Cheney, carry on their Dark Father's tradition of lying in order to get what they want. Cheney wanted to attack and occupy Iraq. Twelvers want health care reform killed and the presidency of Barack Obama, like Clinton in the 90's, marginalized.
In both cases, corporate-whore main media was johnny-on-the-spot in helping to spread the lies. In 2002, in excess of 100,000 anti-Iraq war protestors gathered in D.C. The Washington Post, you know, that "liberal" rag, covered that rather large protest this way….
The Washington Post put the story not on the front page, but in the Metro section with, as the paper's ombudsman later lamented, "a couple of ho-hum photographs that captured the protest's fringe elements."
The Post, representing the lies and deceptions of Dick Cheney over Iraq in 2002, couldn't possibly take 100,000+ protesters seriously…..their paper repeatedly had argued for attacking a country which did not threaten America.
However, if the protest is smaller and based on incoherent deceptions and lies, like the TeaBaggers in D.C. this past weekend…..then the "liberal" Washington Post strategically places those lies and deceptions on their front page….with pictures….
Tens of thousands of conservative protesters, many complaining that the nation is racing toward socialism, massed outside the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, angrily denouncing President Obama's health-care plan and other initiatives as threats to the Constitution.
100,000+ protesting the lies of Dick Cheney which resulted in 4400 U.S. soldier caskets and no definable benefit to America…..Metro section coverage. 60,000 protesters lying about any and everything Obama…..front page news.
I no longer believe that America is in a "battle for it's soul." I think that battle is over and the forces of light and truth have lost. The liars and deceivers have won out. Cheney lied and he got what he wanted….a U.S. quagmire in Iraq with thousands of dead Americans. The Twelvers lie and deceive and the whore media, just like with Iraq, assist them in getting what they want…..a watered down, feckless, piece of drug and insurance industry-friendly legislation which will only make our problem with high costs and availability even worse.
Update: Here is the picture used by my blog friend King in his post yesterday….
The picture is from the 1997 Promise Keepers rally…..not from last Saturday's TeaBagger gathering.
Humans will lie and deceive about anything.
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Jjams is right. If you wanted to see some real lies and story telling try to look up Obama's AFL-CIO speech today. I couldn't find one truth. Other than he knew what city he was in and the peoples names that he had to thank for lying to get him elected.
Please expound , below avg.on the lies told today, you know , as a guy who has never held a decent job and is therefore forever anti union.
I didn't see that picture on King's blog, Reverend. His picture has a lot bigger crowd, it looks like.
Are you just making stuff up again?
Poor Rev,
Classic. You write a post about lies, and then you tell a whopper of a lie about me. The picture I used wasn't even of the National Mall, you dim bulb. It was from the Tea Party MARCH earlier in the day, that took place on Pennsylvania Ave, 14th and E Sts. The picture even had an accompanying caption to tell you exactly where it was taken. Even a cursory look at my picture reveals it is from a different location than the one you posted.
LOL.
In case you're not familiar with D.C. and the National Mall, look at the street to the left of the Mall from the picture you posted. THAT is where my picture was taken.
But you sure proved your point. "Humans will lie and deceive about anything." The Reverend is proof positive of that.
"da king"FYI its not about truth or belief,rev is a Progressive. They are the folks who have brought you salesman Obama,the Emmanuels,David Axelrod the dear leaders-the Clintons and their mentor Sol Alinsky(sp?)The belief system seems real to them.Their roots are in Woodrow Wilson's belief that all things are okay if it furthers the movement-sounds rather Leninist/Trotskyite. If it rings true to their belief system it IS true.It is their religion.They are the true believing evangelists who will lead the way.The country revolted by 1994 for the Clintons and folks are awakening a little sooner against Salesman Obama.It may be too little too late.Race will be played out by rev and true believers everywhere because it is incomprehensible that ANYONE disagrees with the true belif system.THEY FEAR THE UNWASHTED MASSES- like the Teabaggers.These loathsome unbelievers should be imprisoned at the very least,reeducated and if no repentence is found-executed for the benefit of the movement.Cleanse the world of these vermin!!!
interesting enough there were ZERO arrests at the events in DC over the weekend.Comrade Obama left(read fled)town for that progressive enclave Minnesota while they were there.What a hero-just like the heroic rev!True believers unite!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/12/781110/-Is-Malkin-Selling-Phony-March-Numbers-(Updated-2X)
Does Daily Kos have anything about King's photo, Reverend, or are you just avoiding the topic now?
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/09/14/that-photo-of-the-912-march-on-washington-its-fake/
Sad the only way they can get support these days is to lie. Joe Wilson is a liar , he is a closest racist. Joe Wilson who fought to keep the confederate flag flying in a Klu Klux klan state . Not once did a democrat call Bush a liar and with all the lies he said .
Death panels , government take over , covering illegals ALL LIES . “NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.” written in the bill.
How long will people support the party of the liars ? When will they stop making excuses?
Poor Rev,
I nailed you on your boldfaced lie, and you don't even have the cojones to admit it. Your links didn't prove a thing, other than DailyKos is full of crap, as usual. The photo I posted on my blog shows the crowd at the starting point of the 9/12 March (photo taken from 14th and E St). If you want to know why the flag was at half mast early on the morning of 9/12, as DailyKos does, well, DUH, the previous day was 9/11. The march then went down Pennsylvania Ave. to the steps of the Capitol. At no time did I claim that the National Mall was completely filled with 9/12 protesters. That WOULD be false. The 9/12 crowd filled slightly less than half the Mall. There was a National Black Family Celebration taking place at the other end, down by the Washington Monument.
You are lying. End of story. Fess up. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I think there is still a question about the photo you used…..we'll see. If I'm mistaken, I will admit it.
You admit that the crowd was in the tens of thousands. With all the Fox and Glenn Beck and Dick Armey promoters I would have thought there would have been a larger turnout. By your silence, you also admit that what you call a protest of spending and big government, was absent during the 8 years of spending and big government under Bush. Why is that, exactly? Were the Baggers in a coma the last 8 years?
The TeaBaggers, who you are now identified with, are as partisan a group as is out there. The only thing the Baggers agree on is that they don't like Obama.
Whether or not there is a question about the photo I used, which there isn't, YOU STILL LIED. You posted a different photo from 2002 and falsely tried to pass it off as mine. YOU ARE A LIAR. Period.
I think the crowd was around 100,000, based upon my first hand experience (it could have been much bigger). You are basing your estimate upon BS from people who WERE NOT THERE. You have no idea what you are talking about. All your subject changes in the world will not offset YOUR LIES, which are across the board. You suck, until you apologize for your dishonesty.
I'm waiting.
Yes, the photo I put up is not the same as yours. Yes. But I still do not believe your photo is from 9-12.
And I didn't put the picture up dishonestly. I still think your picture is from another gathering. Progressive bloggers will root this one out.
I heard it was from 350K to 600K. And over 1.5M if you add up the meetings held all over the country.
Wow, Rev tried to pawn off a pic from a group of White Christian Conservatives on his page. Why not something from the 10,000 Man March
Wow, Reverend. It must be humiliating to be caught in such a transparent lie that even you have to admit it.
"Sad the only way they can get support these days is to lie. Joe Wilson is a liar , he is a closest racist. Joe Wilson who fought to keep the confederate flag flying in a Klu Klux klan state . Not once did a democrat call Bush a liar and with all the lies he said .
Death panels , government take over , covering illegals ALL LIES . “NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.” written in the bill.
How long will people support the party of the liars ? When will they stop making excuses?"
Andrea. What planet are you from. They burned and hanged Bush images in effigy all through his career. Wow. No wait that kind of ignorance deserves a "wowwy zowwy" and a Whoooeeee!!! Were you in jail or a convent during that time or hiding in your basement with the TV off? Read what you wrote again, now try it with a straight face. LOL
Still below.
I'm starting to wonder if Andrea is actually Nancy Pelosi or a member of her staff, it's getting so far off the rails.
Rev,
Well, whaddya know. You admitted you lied. Hallelujah. That's a start.
But the only thing progressive bloggers will do is try to construct more phony bs like you did.
I hear your Tea Partiers are planning an early November shindig. We'll see how that turns out.
I imagine it will turn out like all the rest. A peaceful protest.
Unless the libs send some thugs in to start trouble.
C'mon, tell the truth, you are really hoping for some Tea Party violence, aren't you ? You probably have the WWIII posts all written and ready to deploy. It must be disappointing to you that the Tea Partiers aren't a violent bunch. Messes up your desired narrative about violent right-wing racists. Come to think of it, you keep trying to peddle that narrative anyway. What's up with that ?