What Obama proposed last night was nothing even close to government run natonal health care. Insurance reform, a mandate much like we have with auto-insurance, and an exchange for the uninsured to buy insurance. The exchange will have several private insurance plans and one public insurance plan.

If implemented as laid out last night, perhaps 5% of those insured nationally will be on public insurance. That's not government run health care. That's a timid attempt to lower overall health costs. Slowly weaning the bloated insurance and pharma companies off big profit margins and inefficiencies seems like the goal. It is a start, so if what Obama said last night becomes law, it won't be a total catastrophe. But I still believe the public plan will be nixed before this is over.

Then it will be a catastrophe.

There is also no reason for the health insurance exchange to take four years to go into effect. The only reason for that is politics, so Obama and the Dems can be re-elected in 2013 by saying "the Republicans are going to take away your health care." To prove what I'm saying, when Medicare was created in 1965, it became functional less than a year later. It doesn't take four years to "get it right," as Obama weakly stated. The insurance companies ALREADY exist. They could roll out the health insurance exchange in six months (or at least anyone other than our bureaucratic nightmare of a federal government could).

From 1948 – 1969 the NHS looked like this:
—-Hospital Services of [14] Reginal Hospital Boards were created in England & Wales to administer the majority of hospital services. Beneath these were [400] Hospital Management Committees which administered hospitals. Teaching hospitals had different arrangements and were organized under Boards of Governors.
—-Primary Care GPs' were independent contractors (they were not salaried employees) and would be paid for each person on their list. Dentist, opticians and pharmacists also generally provided services as independent contractors. Executive Councils were formed and administered contracts and payments to the contractor professions as well as maintaining lists of local practitioners and dealing with patients.
—-Community Services such as Maternity and Child Welfare clinics, health visitors, midwives, health education, vaccination & immunization and ambulance services together with environmental health services were the responsibility of local authorities. This was a continuation of the role of local government.

As you can see, I've just described Englands National Health Services (NHS), to you. Since 1969, the NHS has grown to be the third largest entity in the world. Which is why once this bill is passed, it cannot be stopped. It's not going to be the trickle down effect, it'll be the trickle up effect. So many people will be put in place it will be impossible to stop.

You yourself are finally beginning to see the light. It's very unfortunate however, that you're still seeing party lines. If you listened carefully to Obama's speech, you'd realize that there are no longer Democrats, he referred to them as "my Progressive friends". I'm not a Dem, Repub., or Ind., and I'm certainly not a Progressive. What I am is an American who simply wants her country back.

No one should be forced to buy health insurance. And that's what he's planning. We all heard him say it. That's why many of us have been telling everyone else to read this bill. It also says that should the government not like the [private] insurance that we've chosen for ourselves, we'll be taxed 2.5% of our total gross income.

Medical training under the government in England was so unsuccessful that the Secretary of State for Health was forced to apologize publicly. Thus the "Agenda for Change" (AFC), was born. Another government agency sticking their nose in telling nurses and doctors how to their jobs. And out of that one came, "Knowledge and Skills Framework" (KSF). This government agency put together a work/skills sheet for nurses and doctors to determine how much money they should make.

In 1998, more than $1Billion was wasted on red-tape alone in government spending. Can you imagine what that figure must be today?

Everyone's under the impression/assumption that those of us who are against this bill are ignorant people. We're being called Nazi's and racist. Personally, I preferred it when I was a child growing up in the 60's being called a n@^^@r. At least then they were looking right at me and saying it. Now however, they're saying it to the media and talking heads on television.

We want health care reform. Please, fix what's broken. Put those in prison who are committing fraud. And impose fines on those who are milking the system with inflated prescription cost. Also, make insurance companies more competitive by reaching across state lines.

Don't let this bill get pass Congress. Not in it's present form.

In the details will be examples of the bill helping certain groups. These groups may even contain the people that the bill is supposed to help. But it will also help companies that donated to the right person or party.

On the other hand, there will be portions of the bill that attack other groups. Maybe it is because they donated to the wrong side. Or it may be that it is just politically expedient.

The Constitution is only 6 pages long.

Democrats have not jumbled stuff up. That's the Republicans and their followers who have done that…with main media's gracious assistance.

Behemoth corporations control America today. Both parties, apparently, like it that way. The final bill, I would almost bet, will specifically help those corporations while, simultaneously, hurting Americans.

It didn't have to be this way…but Clintonian triangulaters, like Rahm, seek political dominance over the essential needs of regular Americans.

Republicans are at least up front…..they never seek to help the American people, ONLY corporations. I guess that makes them more honest…I guess.

They are going to vote and they don't even know what they are voting for. The bill isn't even finished. If they would show us what the whole plan was in plain English without the bs spins and twists, we may want this whole bill and the people would get behind it, but as in all sales they have jumblef'd it and now the people don't trust them. Obama has that power. He can do this. Why won't he? I will tell you, because there is stuff in there he is hiding.

News flash Rev, the dems have always F'd over the people for the advancement of their special interest groups.