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As California Goes?

by The Reverend on July 10, 2009

in GOP

California is now issuing IOU's to meet it's financial responsibilities. The state has debt to the tune of $24 billion and referendums to remedy the problem have all gone down to defeat. The state is bankrupt on paper…..you know, like most of those Big Wall Street Banks that are too big to fail. But California? No, not too big to fail.

As California goes…so goes the nation. Does the saying apply to the economic future of the U.S.? Will every state follow suit and crash and burn under heavy loads of debt during this nasty and lengthy recession?

How did California get into the situation they're in? And what can we learn from California's mistakes?

I remember 1978…..

"….begin with the 1978 property tax revolt and the victory of Proposition 13. As California experienced a dramatic escalation in home values, property tax assessments skyrocketed. Especially vulnerable were seniors on fixed incomes. When then Gov. Jerry Brown and the legislature dithered, conservative activists led by Howard Jarvis put a seductively simple sounding proposition on the ballot. Under Proposition 13, the annual real estate tax on a parcel of property would be limited to 1% of its assessed value and this assessed value would only increase by a maximum of 2% per year, until a change in ownership. Voters responded and Proposition 13 scored a dramatic victory with 65% of the vote. Property tax rates dropped an average of 57%."

California's problems began with a pouting proposition initiated by conservatives. A proposition based on selfishness and greed, a proposition declaring "we're mad as hell about rising real estate taxes (but not those higher real estate values) and we're not going to take it anymore."

Be careful what you wish for….

Proposition 13 further altered California politics by requiring a two-thirds majority for tax increases either at the state or local level. This requirement along with a constitutional provision requiring a two-thirds majority to pass a budget – the result of a proposition passed in 1933 – means it is far more difficult to raise taxes or pass a budget in California than in other states. For more than 30 years California has been living with a system of minority rule in which 34% of the legislature or a local community can stonewall the majority. Facing this post-Proposition 13 system, California's various interest groups have increasingly used the ballot box to protect themselves – but by so doing have mandated budgetary havoc.

The point of interest for today's blog post is the 2/3rd's majority to raise taxes. A super-majority of California's legislature had to vote for higher taxes…or taxes could not be raised. Virtually an impossible task. That's why today, California is issuing IOU's……the state Democratically-controlled legislature doesn't have a 2/3rd's majority. The debt amasses.

The same dynamic is at work currently in the federal Congress. Has the Senate handcuffed any chances for real change in America by insisting on a 60 Senatorial vote minimum to move legislation forward? Will health care costs eventually bankrupt the nation because minority conservatives will not allow reform?

Nothing in the Constitution calls for 60 Senate votes to move legislation forward. Throughout history a simple majority in the Senate was all that was necessary to pass bills.

But as in California, so in Washington D.C. ….conservatives demanded that the federal government couldn't borrow money unless a 60-40% majority threshold is met. And so nothing gets done…..no progress is made, serious longstanding problems (like health care) can't be successfully addressed. The country languishes.

40+1% of the Senate can "stonewall" the majority of American people, just like 34% of California representatives can, and did, "stonewall" the state to the place where, now, it's issuing IOU's.

This is a serious problem. When 40 Republican Senators representing less than 40% of America's population can dictate the terms under which the majority must live….then the democratic process isn't working, and as we see in California, the results are disastrous.

How can our nation break the stranglehold that the minority conservative party uses against the American people?

  • larry d.

    I do wonder how much worse the housing bubble would have been in California without Prop. 13, but that state is going bankrupt because its legislators cannot control spending.

    Other democrat controlled states like Michigan and New York are in the same boat and it's laughable to contend low taxes cause any of those states' problems.

  • Steve

    I do business with California daily, there are no conservatives, just liberal and more liberal. The state has many problems and to simplify it the way you did really doesn't do it justice. Your right there is no fiscal responsibility on the tax side, but there is none on the spending side either. As for the U.S. senate that is where I really feel betrayed. When we elected BHO his popularity was sky high, if the republicans blocked him the public outrage would have been so high they would have had there heads handed to them. So what happened? His administation got highjacked by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, etc… with there pork projects and my belief in BHO fell a little, I thought he would be different with his speeches about no more pork, but it hasn't changed. If he had done what he ran his campaign on and turned the economy around too (it is the economy stupid) he would have gotten everything he wanted in his 2nd term. There would be no fight over health care and renewable energy, etc… thanks for nothing Nancy!

  • pdt1420

    Wow Rev… this is one of your more awkward posts.

    Where to begin? Let's start with simple questions that leap off the page…

    Prop 13 was passed by 65%… and it was all conservatives fault. California is 65% conservative?

    Prop 13 was in answer to the vulnerability felt primarily by seniors with fixed incomes… isn't that the empathatic legislation you live for?

    California's problems have nothing to do with spending?

    California is being handcuffed by rules that they can only increase property taxes 2% a year?

    The Senate has a 60 vote super majority, and yet it's conservatives to blame?

    If the Senate Dems can't get 60 votes like they need, doesn't that mean democrats are the ones jumping ship?

    Isn't it then the fault of individual dems?

  • The Reverend

    Conservatives started the California process that wound up handcuffing the state. Can we agree on that?

    The point of the post, as awkward as it might seem, is how our democratic process is hijacked by conservative "no taxes ever" activists. So much so, that a 60-40 majority can't do anything to solve arising problems.

    Ohio has homestead exemptions and rollbacks for seniors. California could have handled their problem similarly. Empathy doesn't have to always help the wealthy, like conservatives would have us think.

    We're in a recession, a severe one. California has cut spending, and then, cut more spending…..what is needed is a tax increase on those wealthy Californians who have most benefitted from Bush's 8 year giveaway-to-the-rich extravaganza.

    The Democrats have 58 Senators with 2 very ill members at home.

    Californians had no problem with higher real estate appraisals, they just didn't want to pay higher taxes as their net worth increased. Selfishness.

    By definition, all bad things that occur are the Democrats fault, and all good things that happen are because of Serious and Wise Republicans.

    Steve…." If he had done what he ran his campaign on and turned the economy around too (it is the economy stupid) he would have gotten everything he wanted in his 2nd term."

    Although Obama, like most all presidents, has gone against some of his campaign promises…..it is also true he has fulfilled many of them and is planning on fulfilling even more. You, apparently, do not like his stimulus plan, which has saved many thousands of jobs from being lost and kept states form going bankrupt faster.

    And if California is nothing but liberals, why is it they can't pass a tax increase?

  • pdt1420

    Sorry Rev, no matter how you try to spin it, this argument is too much of a reach. Nobody's buying it.

    Love your last line in your response. The Rev admits that liberals want higher taxes.

  • angry conserv

    Rev,
    We finally agree. Well at least about the logic that as California goes so goes the country. However our lesson to be learned is as usual the polar opposite.
    Since Comrade Arnold took office in 2003 their budget as increased from 78 billion to 103 billion which is a 32% increase. By any measure that indicates out of control spending with little regard to the realities of the economic cycles that affect tax revenue.
    Your point about Prop. 13 does have some merit concerning the voters lack of the true ramifications of the bill. However since 1993 while the population has been quick to support well meaning programs their voting records have shown an unwillingness to pass tax increases to support their good intentions. A perfect example is the overwhelming defeat recently of the numerous issues that would have raised taxes.

  • The Reverend

    Fiscal scolds who believe in their own brand of economic morality are trying to push Obama and the Democrats into making the same mistake FDR made in 1937, prolonging the depression. We need a new, new deal. Trillions spent on immediate needs.

    The basic problem is one of NOT spending. Americans aren't spending, there's little demand. The only way to interrupt the downward spiral is for the government to spend a lot of money to create jobs. A whole lot of money in this situation. Conservatives encourage the government to CUT spending right when spending is what is needed. It's maddening.

  • Panem et Circenses

    Your last post reveals your ignorance of both history and economics. People are not spending because of the recession and deficit concerns. Having the government spend "Trillions on immediate needs" may create temporary jobs, but not long term sustainable growth.

    Government cannot create jobs to guarantee economic recovery. Private enterprise (if there is any left) will be the only way out of these bad economic times.

    Spending for the sake of looking like you are doing something only increases inflation and steals opportunity from future generations.

    Wake up Rev – your basic theory of spending your way to prosperity is both economically and intellectually bankrupt.

  • Arnie

    Damn right, "no taxes ever"!! I give plenty to the state and get nothing in return!
    You bleeding heart liberals make me sick with this whining, "we want more of your money" to give to no-goods! Thats all that happens to my tax dollars!
    I got 3 (three) fire extinguishers and 2(two) garden hoses hooked up ALL the time, so, that fire department can just quit sucking on my wallet's teet!
    I got all my limbs and senses, not a single retarded kid, and all of them have their sight and limbs too. I don't use any "public assistance" like those leeches do.
    And, do I have guns? Rafts of them! Those cops hang out spending my HARD EARNED money on donuts and "sensual massages", just waiting to fill out a report AFTER some hood rapes my wife and daughter! I can protect my family just fine without their "help".
    I see what's really going on in this country. You nogoodnik liberals just want to tear apart the good hard working folks of this country, like myself, to feel superior. Well, YOU sir can just BUZZ OFF!

  • Martin

    It's George Bush!! Get it right!!!! He Chaney and the vast right wing conspiracy! Deort them all rev!

  • The Reverend

    Damn Skippy, Arnie.

    It's odd that Panem brings up history and so forth, and avoids mentioning FDR's mistake in 1937 when FDR listened to foolish conservatives, like Panem, and slowed federal government spending, resulting in an extension of the depression.

    Panem….why not comment on how federal money during WW2 stimulated the economy, eventually bringing it out of depression? What about all those government created jobs with all that borrowed tax money? Keynesian economics worked during FDR's time. It's the only hope we have this time as well.

    Marvel at the words…

    "Government cannot create jobs to guarantee economic recovery. Private enterprise (if there is any left) will be the only way out of these bad economic times."

    Private enterprise cannot and will not "guarantee economic recovery." So what's the difference again?

    "Spending for the sake of looking like you are doing something only increases inflation and steals opportunity from future generations."

    The millions of families receiving unemployment benefits, the Americans whose jobs were saved with the stimulus…..I'm thinking…..don't believe the government's spending is "for the sake of looking like you are doing something."

    "your basic theory of spending your way to prosperity is both economically and intellectually bankrupt."

    You won't find that "basic theory" anywhere in my blogging, but it makes a useful straw man. The spending by the government is to help prevent a crash and burn economic situation. Government spending is supplying a bit of the demand lost because of the unbridled greed unleashed on America by conservative capitalists. It's for the purpose of softening the fall…..not prosperity building.

    And speaking of free market, real smart, private enterprise "building prosperity"……how'd that Big Bank free market stuff work out?

    Conservatives can't be taught and they can't learn. They just "know."

  • Da King

    Darn. I was looking forward to shooting down the Rev's silly post, but others beat me to it. Good job, all.

    That was pretty rich though, Rev, where you tried to blame conservatives for a voter initiative that was passed in California, as if California, the ultimate blue state, is at all conservative. Good one.

    The problem in California is, the voters have control, and they do what all voters tend to do – vote AGAINST taxes and FOR spending (which Obama knows, and which explains why he ran his campaign on huge spending increases and tax cuts for 95% of Americans at the same time. He knew it was bs, but who cares ? It worked). The voters want the services, they just don't want to pay for them. It's the "free lunch" concept, and that is an idea that comes from liberals, not conservatives. True conservatives know there is no such thing.

    And when are you going to get it through your head that the housing/banking problem was DIRECTED BY THE GOVERNMENT ? Apparently, never.

  • The Reverend

    Never, because it wasn't "directed" from the government.

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