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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2009/04/27/why-the-bush-administration-ordered-torture/ID=5379/comment-page-1/#comment-8145</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on average. Condi gave her approval first and then the legal memos followed. That&#039;s what the evidence demonstrates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on average. Condi gave her approval first and then the legal memos followed. That&#039;s what the evidence demonstrates.</p>
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		<title>By: averagejoe5</title>
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		<dc:creator>averagejoe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do Libs always attack on a personal level when they are caught or proven wrong? I understood what he meant Rev, pray tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do Libs always attack on a personal level when they are caught or proven wrong? I understood what he meant Rev, pray tell.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2009/04/27/why-the-bush-administration-ordered-torture/ID=5379/comment-page-1/#comment-8122</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re enjoying the ride on your very own cul-de-sac.

And what, pray tell, does &quot;days after&quot; mean? In dyslexia-land, does it mean &quot;before.&quot; 

If you keep this up....you&#039;ll need to supply us with a lexicon defining your terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#039;re enjoying the ride on your very own cul-de-sac.</p>
<p>And what, pray tell, does &#034;days after&#034; mean? In dyslexia-land, does it mean &#034;before.&#034; </p>
<p>If you keep this up&#8230;.you&#039;ll need to supply us with a lexicon defining your terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2009/04/27/why-the-bush-administration-ordered-torture/ID=5379/comment-page-1/#comment-8113</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correcting Rev&#039;s error about the my alleged error (that I didn&#039;t make) -

Rev, you should have read your own material. To the end. Here&#039;s the final statement in your link:

&quot;Days after Miss Rice spoke to Mr Tenet, the Justice Department approved the use of waterboarding in a top secret memo. Abu Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding some 83 times in August 2002.&quot;

EXACTLY as I said, the waterboarding was not done until the approval from the OLC was given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correcting Rev&#039;s error about the my alleged error (that I didn&#039;t make) -</p>
<p>Rev, you should have read your own material. To the end. Here&#039;s the final statement in your link:</p>
<p>&#034;Days after Miss Rice spoke to Mr Tenet, the Justice Department approved the use of waterboarding in a top secret memo. Abu Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding some 83 times in August 2002.&#034;</p>
<p>EXACTLY as I said, the waterboarding was not done until the approval from the OLC was given.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev says, &quot;The CIA and intelligence people supporting torture are either ex-Bushies or neo-cons. What else could we expect from them?&quot;

George Tenet was a neo-con, a Bushie ? Wrong. He was appointed by Clinton. He was the one who initially asked if he could waterboard, and was the one who actually carried out the waterboarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev says, &#034;The CIA and intelligence people supporting torture are either ex-Bushies or neo-cons. What else could we expect from them?&#034;</p>
<p>George Tenet was a neo-con, a Bushie ? Wrong. He was appointed by Clinton. He was the one who initially asked if he could waterboard, and was the one who actually carried out the waterboarding.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. King,
Weren&#039;t the &quot;enhanced&quot; methods used on American citizen, John Walker Lindh?  How about Jose Padilla?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. King,<br />
Weren&#039;t the &#034;enhanced&#034; methods used on American citizen, John Walker Lindh?  How about Jose Padilla?</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And.....as usual....good stuff from mary.

&quot;against the law&quot; seems simple enough to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230;..as usual&#8230;.good stuff from mary.</p>
<p>&#034;against the law&#034; seems simple enough to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First...King&#039;s error....

From the Senate report....

&quot;On July 17, 2002, according to CIA records, the Director of Central
Intelligence (DCI) met with the National Security Adviser, who advised that the CIA could proceed with its proposed interrogation of Abu Zubaydah.&quot;

The NSA adviser was none other than Ms. Condi.

The OLC memos weren&#039;t approved until August.

average...Bush/Cheney were a threat to the entire world, Hussein wasn&#039;t a threat to anyone at the time we invaded his country. Draw your own conclusions.

Most of your suggested headlines are about legislative actions taken by Congress or the courts. That&#039;s called democracy in the U.S. 

I&#039;ll be covering the &quot;torture saved American lives&quot; slogan again tomorrow. As I expected...the truth is just the opposite of the slogan.

You&#039;re smart enough average....I don&#039;t doubt that for a second. I know you don&#039;t care much for Democrats, and on some stuff I agree with you. 

What is at stake in the torture discussions is not partisan sniping.....it&#039;s the rule of law. I know that conservatives used to be for the rule of law. Now, I&#039;m wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First&#8230;King&#039;s error&#8230;.</p>
<p>From the Senate report&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#034;On July 17, 2002, according to CIA records, the Director of Central<br />
Intelligence (DCI) met with the National Security Adviser, who advised that the CIA could proceed with its proposed interrogation of Abu Zubaydah.&#034;</p>
<p>The NSA adviser was none other than Ms. Condi.</p>
<p>The OLC memos weren&#039;t approved until August.</p>
<p>average&#8230;Bush/Cheney were a threat to the entire world, Hussein wasn&#039;t a threat to anyone at the time we invaded his country. Draw your own conclusions.</p>
<p>Most of your suggested headlines are about legislative actions taken by Congress or the courts. That&#039;s called democracy in the U.S. </p>
<p>I&#039;ll be covering the &#034;torture saved American lives&#034; slogan again tomorrow. As I expected&#8230;the truth is just the opposite of the slogan.</p>
<p>You&#039;re smart enough average&#8230;.I don&#039;t doubt that for a second. I know you don&#039;t care much for Democrats, and on some stuff I agree with you. </p>
<p>What is at stake in the torture discussions is not partisan sniping&#8230;..it&#039;s the rule of law. I know that conservatives used to be for the rule of law. Now, I&#039;m wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: averagejoe5</title>
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		<dc:creator>averagejoe5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the title of this story. As though Bush was Saddam Huessein.

I guess we should have some other titiles like
&quot;Why did Obama Gut the UAW and other Labor Contracts&quot; Thousands lose safety net laborers suffer, Union leaders continue to live high on hog.
or
&quot;Why did Bill Clinton Really sign NAFTA and send middle class jobs to other countries&quot; Thought country would benefit from Beanie baby retirement fund craze.
or
&quot;Libs defend abortion holocaust, 62,000,000 babies killed in past 30 years&quot;
or
&quot;Dem leaders lie about strength of Fannie and Freddie, Banks Collapse&quot; &quot;Millions of American middle class lose homes, those responsible not held accountable.&quot;
or
&quot;ACLU runs to rescue of people responsible for murder of 2800 innocent Americans. Choose to demand that America respects protection of confessed killers, families of survivors shunned&quot;
or
&quot;Dems and ACLU  would rather risk American lives than question terrorists that have secret plans to kill more Americans.&quot;
or
&quot;Obama tries to appoint cabinet to take care of our finances, having trouble, all are tax cheats&quot;

I know I&#039;m not as smart or well read as some but it seems as though the Dems/libs hate families and America to me. Why? I just don&#039;t get it, it seems backwards to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the title of this story. As though Bush was Saddam Huessein.</p>
<p>I guess we should have some other titiles like<br />
&#034;Why did Obama Gut the UAW and other Labor Contracts&#034; Thousands lose safety net laborers suffer, Union leaders continue to live high on hog.<br />
or<br />
&#034;Why did Bill Clinton Really sign NAFTA and send middle class jobs to other countries&#034; Thought country would benefit from Beanie baby retirement fund craze.<br />
or<br />
&#034;Libs defend abortion holocaust, 62,000,000 babies killed in past 30 years&#034;<br />
or<br />
&#034;Dem leaders lie about strength of Fannie and Freddie, Banks Collapse&#034; &#034;Millions of American middle class lose homes, those responsible not held accountable.&#034;<br />
or<br />
&#034;ACLU runs to rescue of people responsible for murder of 2800 innocent Americans. Choose to demand that America respects protection of confessed killers, families of survivors shunned&#034;<br />
or<br />
&#034;Dems and ACLU  would rather risk American lives than question terrorists that have secret plans to kill more Americans.&#034;<br />
or<br />
&#034;Obama tries to appoint cabinet to take care of our finances, having trouble, all are tax cheats&#034;</p>
<p>I know I&#039;m not as smart or well read as some but it seems as though the Dems/libs hate families and America to me. Why? I just don&#039;t get it, it seems backwards to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_destruction/2009/04/27/why-the-bush-administration-ordered-torture/ID=5379/comment-page-1/#comment-8080</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev, 
I left this out before. Right in the beginning of your post, you said, &quot;We also know now that the Bush administration ordered torture to be done BEFORE any Justice Department &quot;legal&quot; memos defending those acts of torture had been written.&quot;

This is untrue. Even the link you provided contradicts you. The waterboarding of Zubaydah happened only AFTER the OLC legal memos, not before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev,<br />
I left this out before. Right in the beginning of your post, you said, &#034;We also know now that the Bush administration ordered torture to be done BEFORE any Justice Department &#034;legal&#034; memos defending those acts of torture had been written.&#034;</p>
<p>This is untrue. Even the link you provided contradicts you. The waterboarding of Zubaydah happened only AFTER the OLC legal memos, not before.</p>
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