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The propagandist and former Bush II press secretary, Ari Fleischer, still having his way with "liberal" news show hosts, goes on Hardball the night before last and simply makes sh*t up…..
Fleischer…."After 9-11, having been hit once, how could we take a chance that Saddam might not strike again?"
Read that sentence again, you know, for full effect.
Without a doubt, the propagandist Fleischer, came on Chris Matthew's program Wednesday night to spread more propaganda. Before the concrete of the Bush-Cheney criminal regime sets and cures in the minds of Americans, the Bush era propagandists' plans are to attempt a rework, a revision, of the crimes of the Terror Twins,….one more time. The Whitewash artists, those who graduated cum-laude-assholo from their arts-of-deception schools, have been making many appearances on the "news" shows in the last few months. Lots to whitewash over.
Here, Ari clearly includes Saddam Hussein in with 9-11, just as many neo-conservative criminal pr*cks did in late 2001 and all of 2002. Astonishingly, or perhaps not, the same lying, neo-con, Bushian pr*cks, stating the same lying, neo-con, Bushian pr*ck stories about Saddam and Iraq's involvement with 9-11, al-Qaeda, international terrorism, the spread of WMD…..the same sh*t we heard back then…..is now, once again, all over our "news". Everything 8 years old is new again.
From last night's Hardball we have two clips by yet another unrepentant, lying, neo-con, Bushian pr*ck,….one of the worst,….Frank Gaffney…..and this time, the spouted bullsh*t gets very deep, indeed…..
Gaffney not only rejects the 9-11 Commission finding that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11…he goes on to say that he believes there is evidence that Saddam "was collaborating with al-Qaeda on all kinds of things." Gaffney calls the 9-11 Commission, "partisan", and that Saddam's "involvement" with 9-11 is still an "open question." He insists that we have "a lot of evidence that these guys (Saddam and al-Qaeada) were meeting, they were collaborating, they were organizing something, they were sharing technology, they were sharing intelligence, we have lots of evidence of that."
All of what Gaffney says, of course, is nothing but a steaming pile of bullsh*t, just as it was when he and his fellow lying, neo-con, Bushian pr*cks were saying those same things back in 2001-2002 in order to fraudulently lead us into attacking a sovereign nation posing no threat to America. Deja-f*cking-vu….all over again, Yogi.
But it gets even worse….
Gaffney…
"There's also circumstantial evidence, not proven by any means, but nonetheless, compelling circumstantial evidence of, Saddam Hussein's Iraq being involved with the people who perpetrated both the 1993 attack of the World Trade Center and even the…..(wait for it)….Oklahoma City bombing."
We live in a post-modern America. Truth is no longer truth. History is constantly subjected to biased revisings. Empirical evidence is moldable. Inconvenient facts ignored or buried.
That is the America that Bushian leftovers, like the despicable Fleischer and Gaffney, want to keep alive, in spite of American voter rejection.
The real question here is: why do "liberal" cable news programs continue to give these lying, neo-con, Bushian pr*cks so much air time?
I have not changed my opinion one iota about today's conservative/ Republican movement. A movement that's still given prominent face time by a corrupt, and seemingly hopeless, corporate media.
The organized Republican/conservative movement is still a criminal outfit deserving of trial, conviction and punishment for treasonous acts against our nation. Fleischer and Gaffney's "Whitewash" tour of lies is only an ugly reminder that these criminals have yet to be brought to justice.
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The only, and I repeat only, connection that Saddam had with Al Qaeda was the fact that they both gained power by receiving aid from the US. They were armed by us to fight our enemies (Iran and USSR respectively) and then we were done with them and they wanted to run things their way. All of this done under Reagan. The only reason we had a problem with Iraq is that they stopped listening to us, the same goes with Al Qaeda. Hell Bin Laden was hand picked to run Al Qaeda by the US, and his whole beef with the government is that he trained soldiers and fought in battles for us only to be left to rot in Afghanistan.
G-mann guns down the whitewashers and gives us a factual historical perspective, all at the same time.
Hey, let the media put these guys on, spout this non-sensical bullsh*t, it only makes OUR President look like the intelligent, hard-working man that he truly is.
America and it's people have spoken, loud and clear, we now know (finally) what artists these guys can be, painting the past, present, and future however they feel it suits their pathetic agendas. We are no longer walking around with our eyes closed and our ears plugged.
Let the neo-idiots spout their crap, it only furthers our belief in the new Commander in Chief.
But why does the new president have to be so pissy and effeminite?
Larry, your guy was a cheerleader.
What do you have against cheerleaders, Tbomb?
"Before the concrete sets and cures" is a pretty telling phrase, Reverend. It's too bad for propagandists like yourself that history doesn't work that way.
I never took you for a post-modernist, larry.
Perhaps you could tell us how "history", you know, "works."
It's not set in concrete, though propagandists like yourself do their best.
History…or anything, really…..is never determinable. According to larry's thinking, history,….the accurate account of what has already happened….is never possible.
Following that thinking…..was George W. Bush really ever the president? Maybe not, huh? I mean, it would seem, if all the evidence is studied, that Bush was really the president for 8 years here in America, but it's not set in concrete.
Hard to make heads or tails of anything, I guess.
I'm typing this comment, but I really can't be sure that I did. Others, who may come along later, I suppose, will be able to, at least, tentatively, determine whether I, indeed, typed this comment. However, no one will ever be able to say, for sure, that I did. Ever.
That's pretty far afield, Reverend.
Blind squirrels who believe the truth of 9/11 and Iraq was determined by lefties in 2005 or so are just as deluded as the blind squirrels who thought it was determined by the Bush Administration in the runup to the invasion.
Rev,
If history is not determinable and you are not a propagandist, why did you agree with G-Mann, who said, "Bin Laden was hand picked to run Al Qaeda by the US" ?
And Rev, if you are not a propagandist, why didn't you tell everyone that Ari Fleischer later said he misspoke at the end of that Matthews interview, that he didn't mean to say Saddam was behind 9/11, that he meant to say Saddam had attacked other countries before and could attack us too ?
Chris Matthews is a total disgrace as a journalist, if you can even call him that. He asks loaded questions that pass judgement and then he doesn't even let his guest answer them. He interrupted Fleischer the entire time, from beginning to end. Fleischer hardly got a complete sentence out. I think the reason Matthews constantly interrupts people like Fleischer is precisely to get them to make some kind of verbal mistake like that so the moonbats can go wild with it. Matthews was so busy interrupting Fleischer so that Fleischer wouldn't be heard that he didn't even notice Fleischer's mistake. You only played a tiny sliver of that interview, Rev.
As for Gaffney saying Saddam had something to do with Oklahoma City, I have no idea what that was about. Alzheimer's maybe ? I do think Saddam was behind the OJ Simpson murders, though. There's circumstantial evidence of that.
I think I found out where the Saddam-Oklahoma City and Saddam-WTC I linkage come from, if you're interested.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110002217
Didn't the U.S. hand pick Bin Laden for Afghanistan-Soviet interference? Pretty sure that's what happened. Same with Saddam….containing Iran and all that.
I don't care for Matthews, and you know I've ripped him more than once.
The question to ask is this….Why was Fleischer, and later Gaffney, on teevee at all? Did they have breaking news? No. They were on to spout their lies, again…and Matthews let them.
I read the link. Contained within was the writer Mylorie's revisionistic efforts to justify her Dear Leader's imminent attack on Iraq. She grasped for straws at every opportunity. She was part of the Mighty Wurlitzer media machine as it spun out Soviet-style propaganda during the year 2002. Treasonous, really.
Bin Laden was one of the muhjahadeen that fought the Soviets with U.S. assistance. Al Qaeda hadn't even been invented yet. Saying "the U.S. hand picked Bin Laden to run Al Qaeda" is like saying "the U.S hand picked Timothy McVeigh to blow up the Murrah Bldg. in Oklahoma City" because McVeigh had been in the military. It's stupid beyond belief. It takes a crystal ball to make a statement like that.
Matthews has people like Fleischer and Gaffney on IN ORDER TO DISCREDIT THEM. Remember, it's Matthews' show, so of course he's going to try to find a Republican who'll say something he can denigrate. Matthews picks the guests. They don't pick him.
The link actually backed up what Gaffney said. Gaffney said there was circumstantial evidence linking Saddam. He said the evidence wasn't conclusive, which it isn't. And Mylorie wasn't the source, nor was Mylorie the only source. The info actually came from the FBI and other sources. There's nothing treasonous about investigating and gathering intelligence about criminal acts.
Still drinking from the kool-aid pitcher.
Matthews gave Gaffney and Flesicher free reign on Hardball. Go back and look at the clips. Matthews didn't even allow enough time to refute these guys, as you suggest.
Just like with Cheney on CNN yesterday, the corporate media is beholden to those voices who promise to reduce their taxes. Simple as that.
International criminals and their co-conspirators are not only welcome to spew their lies on national teevee…..they are encouraged to do so by the same media who cheerleads for them still. The evidence is overwhelming.
Matthews is a left-wing spinner for a left-wing "news" organization, MSNBC. That's simply a fact.
Who invited Fleischer and Gaffney ? Matthews.
Who asked the loaded questions ? Matthews.
Who interrupted the answers ? Matthews.
I'm not drinking any Kool-Aid. I'm just presenting the facts. I leave it to you to twist them.
Matthews always interrupts, however, if you listen carefully, he gave Ari and Frank ample time…more than ample time….to spew the lies. The questions weren't loaded…not at all.
Think about it….it would be like me inviting, like, Ken Blackwell, to write a post here. Why would I do that? Matthews knew that Fleischer and Gaffney were still Bushian neo-con ringers…why would he invite them on?
The only other answer I can come up with is the same old "controversy" justification. News media loves "controversy"….higher ratings, I suppose. Ari and Frank may have been on to 1) defend the Bushies by lying, and 2) stir up the controversy pot by doing the lying.
Whatever….Matthews was exceptionally weak with both guests. Proving once again that Chrissy is intimidated by tough talking, bullies…even if they are water carriers for other poser bullies.