"And from the "master of the obvious" files: If Republicans actually believed Obama's policies would work, they would have been advocating such policies themselves.

Or maybe the GOP is suicidal and has a collective death wish. You decide."

Republicans, revising history about FDR, as King also does, actually do understand what happened during the 30's. And THAT'S what Republicans are afraid of. A progressive, Democratic led, era began in the 30's that saved the nation from third world status.

Today's GOP, well aware of the succes of the Democratic Party back then…..will do anything, including trashing our entire population's economic well being……in order to block another historic progressive era.

Simple as that.

This is nothing new. We all watched as Republicans worked to destroy our country over the last 8 years. My proof here is the fact that Americans disapproved of Bush and the GOP in record numbers, and yet, after the election they went right back to their nation-destroying ways.

The majority of today's elected Republicans are, without doubt, anti-American maniacs.

larry, ditto for me. It's like watching a train wreck. You can't look away.

I see a change happening though — some of us when we hear the same old thing over and over again are beginning to investigate and find the nuance behind the talking point — you see the talking points are never a total lie but it is the nuance that makes them true or false. Those mandates — the mess we are in was caused by a whole lot more than mandates — and both parties had agendas that contributed to the mess.

Rev – You will never hear me say that the Republicans were good stewards over our spending for the last 8 years. To be correct, however, it was the Democratic sponsored mandates to lenders that got us into this mess.

I think that must be the "thinking" Smokeking is referring to.

"pork" is considered to be, when Republicans are in control, earmarks. There are no earmarks in this bill. Obama listened to other points of view. He not only listened, he went even further and gave up 42% of the bill to non-stimulative tax cuts…just to make the Republicans happy. More than fair.

But no, the GOP doesn't want compromise….what I said in my post is correct. It's not about the country, a country that has rejected Republicans out of hand,….it's all about the Republicans and their do-anything, even destroy the country, mindset. Destroying this bill, to Republicans, an action that actually endangers the entire population, is destroying Obama and, in some fantasia dreamscape, places them back in power.

I have said many times, and you can check the archives or ask King, the modern Republican Party is an anti-American organized crime group. Their current eagerness to bring the nation to near-term ruin for political oddsmaking only reinforces that belief.

This legislation is not what it purports to be, goes against several keystones of Obama's campaign ( eliminate pork, listen to all points of view ) and yet you immediately twist it around to a personal attack against Obama.

I write the post and then commenters, almost exclusively commenting from the conservative viewpoint, lend support to my post.

Thanks guys.