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"Hamas Infrastructure"

by The Reverend on January 6, 2009

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Are children part of the Hamas infrastructure?

Are children part of the Hamas infrastructure?

For those who unwaveringly support every action of America's satellite state of Israel…it's time to check the scoreboard.

Until Monday, only one Israeli soldier had been killed in the military campaign. Meanwhile, Gaza medical officials said that 562 Palestinians had been killed — including at least 111 children — and some 2,500 wounded. The figures cannot be independently verified because Israel has barred foreign journalists from Gaza since the start of the offensive. Link

A couple of days ago I read that Israel's military objective inside of Gaza was to destroy all Hamas infrastructure. When I read that, I queried, what does Hamas do…..label with large letters which bridges, sewers, roadways, and bridges it uses so that Israeli helicopter gunships can easily identify them?

I know that's pretty silly….but so is what Israel said about Hamas infrastructure. Isn't it true that anything…..could be considered Hamas infrastructure? Houses, apartments, shops, restaurants, hospitals, mosques, streets, water sources, energy sources, food sources, and yes….even schools…..

An Israeli military strike killed three people at a United Nations-run school in Gaza City where they had sought shelter from an intensifying ground war inside the Gaza Strip, officials said Tuesday.

U.N. officials said an Israeli strike directly hit an elementary school compound where more than 400 Palestinians had come to escape fighting in northern Gaza, and which was clearly marked as a U.N. installation. The U.N. said it was "strongly protesting" the incident and called on Israel to immediately investigate it.

So…when Israel says that their objective in attacking Gaza….is to destroy any and all infrastructure that Hamas depends on…..what that really means is that Israel, if necessary, will destroy ALL of Gaza. Anything and everything that COULD be used by Hamas fighters.

The Great Christian nation's response?….

the Bush administration has given the offensive its explicit support and blamed Hamas rocket attacks for triggering the war.

"Hamas made a calculation to provoke the crisis," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Monday in Washington. "They can make the opposite calculation."

I realize it will come as a surprise….but that's not altogether, you know, true…..

one frequently hears the claim that Israel left Gaza in 2005 in order to build peace but all it received was terror…..Israel at the time did not evacuate Gaza as part of the peace process. Then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon explicitly said that Israel "will stay in the territories that will remain." His most senior adviser who was in charge of the disengagement, Dov Weisglass, was even more explicit stating that the plan would freeze the peace process and "prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state…it supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so there will not be a political process with the Palestinians." This was brought out by the fact that, as mentioned, Gaza was immediately placed under closure - and those who blame the Gazans for not developing their economy post-occupation should be reminded of that. Link

And for all those who have tried to justify Israeli butchery by hypothesizing about what America would do if some group similar to Hamas was firing unaimable, homemade rockets into the U.S…..consider this….

what would America do if it came under rocket fire from Canada or Mexico?….Gaza constitutes under 6 percent of the '67 territory in which a Palestinian state is supposed to be created (Gaza, West Bank, Palestinian East Jerusalem), about 94 percent remains under occupation so under our scenario 94 percent of Canada or Mexico would have remained under a 40 plus year American occupation with settlements and roadblocks, and with the "liberated" 6 percent still under siege.

Which leads to this question…..

….is it totally inconceivable that under such circumstances some of them would have formed hardline armed groups that would even become very popular and use that 6 percent of territory to launch attacks against America?

I present this information not to justify Palestinian violence, but to better comprehend it from a more objective viewpoint. To not be able, or willing, to grasp both sides, (or even multiple sides), of any given problem is to admit a total incapability of solving it.

That's what Bush, Condi and Sean McCormack have been telling us recently. They're telling us, by their unqualified support for Israel's disproportionate display of bloody violence, that they are incapable, and actually, unwilling, to help solve the problem.

UPDATE:

Israeli tank fire killed up to 40 Palestinians at a United Nations school in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, medical sources at two Gaza hospitals said. Link

  • larry d.

    Thanks for sharing the good news, Reverend.

    Hopefully either Hamas will stop lobbing rockets into Israel or enough of their infrastructure will be destroyed to stop them by the next time you post.

    It's their choice, really. Unfortunately, if they couldn't count on misguided liberals spreading their Jew hate over the Internet, they'd probably have chosen not to lob the missiles in the first place.

    Why do you hate Palestinian schoolchildren?

  • The Reverend

    "misguided liberals spreading their Jew hate"

    When the U.S. was bombing Iraq and patriotically killing innocent women and children there, any Americans who spoke out against doing so….or even suggested it was misguided, by definition, hated America.

    To point out that Israel's completely unnecessary brutality and slaughter of Gazans….even to the extent of targeting schools….might not be the right way to go about solving the problem there….by definition, means, the person pointing it out hates Israel.

    I guess that is because of the great, glorious, historic and infallible morality of our Jewish and American leaders….who order these slaughters….that makes them all good.

  • larry d.

    You've gone way past saying the Israelis actions 'might not be the right way to go about solving the problem,' Reverend. You've called it genocide, which considering recent Jewish history is a pretty hateful thing to claim.

  • Da King

    "Gaza constitutes under 6 percent of the '67 territory in which a Palestinian state is supposed to be created (Gaza, West Bank, Palestinian East Jerusalem), about 94 percent remains under occupation."

    And how much territory would Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, etc. leave the Israelis if they had their way ?

    Answer: NONE

    Rev, you never, ever consider the reasons for why Israel does what it does. They don't just do it to be mean. They do it for their own survival. Here, you are actually advocating that they abandon all that land, letting their sworn enemies right into their kitchen. That would be a great idea if Israel had a death wish, but I imagine they don't.

  • Da King

    And since you brought up the 1967 borders, let's have a little history lesson.

    In 1967, Israel won the Six Day War against Egypt, Jordan, and Syria, with Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria alll contributing arms and forces for the Arab side. Here's how it unfolded:

    After Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force from the Sinai Peninsula, which had been there for a decade, Egypt amassed 1,000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers on the Israel border, closed the Straits of Tiran to all Israeli ships, and closed off strategic supplies to Israel. So Israel attacked Egypt's airforce (I suppose the Rev would call Israel the aggressor here, but sane folks know better). Israel won the war and gained control of the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. The Arabs attempted to destroy Israel and got their butts kicked. You can cry over them losing that territory in '67 if you wish, but I don't. Not a drop. The Arabs got what they deserved.

    Israel, both then and now, was acting in defense of it's country, it's right to exist.

    Get a clue, Rev.

  • The Reverend

    Those who suffer from Israeli tunnel vision will never see both sides of this issue.

    Palestinians, to tunnel visionarys, are sub-human, and always will be. Anything done to sub-humans, as we've proven in Iraq, is acceptable.

    But hey, be proud of the slaughter. Israeli Exceptionalism, like it's father, American Exceptionalism, is very, very popular.

    King says it best….pure Cheney…."the Arabs got what they deserved."

    Iraqis, Afghanis, Palestinian Muslims…..all get what they deserve.

    Christ, I'm overwhelmed by the compassion.

  • The Reverend

    And larry….excuse my less-than-tender use of wording towards current Israeli leaders.

    I guess that once you've been threatened with extinction through horrific means…..that gives you an unchallenged entitlement to wage military aggression against other helpless populations. All exempt from any criticism.

    Makes a lot of sense.

  • larry d.

    You've gone off the rocker a little, Reverend. Maybe a nice visit with those Mormon youth could help you re-orient?

  • http://keelerreport.blogspot.com/ Ben Keeler

    "Those who suffer from Israeli tunnel vision will never see both sides of this issue."

    I'd say you suffer from the opposite, but it based on your comments it isnt worth arguing.

    Israel just needs to end it.

  • frank

    larry d.,
    Don't start worrying about sensitivities now. Last year, a deputy defense minister for Israel warned the Gazans that they would bring a "holocaust" down upon them.
    Actually, when I look at Gaza, I see a ghetto. You have a small, overcrowded area bounded by a wall on one side and the sea on the other. Israel controls all resources that may enter the area. Israel controls people's travel. In short, they impose most of the living conditions and it is apparent that they don't want Gaza to thrive. When I see Gaza, I see a people being forced to live under deplorable conditions. When I see Gaza, I see a people being systematically being pushed into the sea.
    Now I understand people saying that Hamas is inviting this situation, and that is so because Israel is giving them two options, subservience or death. So when Israel targets places that can be expected packed with civilans it can only be called state sponsored terrorism. The Arab-Israeli conflict will not end until there is a secure and independent states for both parties. As long as neither party accepts the existence of the other, I see no reason to assume moral superiority for either side.

  • averagejoe5

    There is a secured and independent state for each. Israel accepts the existance of Palestine. All Isreal wants is for Hamas to please stop lobbing bombs into their country and killing it's citizens. Is this concept hard to understand?

  • The Reverend

    Is it that conservative commenters, like my blog buddy Ben….can't read, or is it simply a comprehension problem?

    " 'Those who suffer from Israeli tunnel vision will never see both sides of this issue.'

    I'd say you suffer from the opposite,"

    Show me how I didn't say that Hamas shouldn't shoot rockets into Israel. I say the same thing conservative commenters say. But unlike me, conservative commenters justify Israel's savagery. Israel's savagery is the other side of the argument, one that conservatives simply ignore.

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