Comments on: Israeli Military Kills 280 Palestinians, 1 Israeli Dead

By: The Reverend

The Reverend — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:43:26 +0000

Yes.

And, in America, we have a hawkish, 'defend Israel at all costs', group of evangelical Christians joining hands with neo-conservative military-industrial-complex maniacs to cheer on American bombs dropped by the Israeli air force onto the heads of Palestinian Muslims…who just happen to have a disagreement with the Jews over the "temple" site which evnagelicals say must be rebuilt before the, you know, rapture, happens.

Insane.

By: frank

frank — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:26:20 +0000

Rev,
Here's my take on the situation. After WWII, the British controlled the are now known as Israel. It no longer had the resources to maintain a colony, and because of the guilt of not preventing the holocaust, the Western powers supported using the are as an Israeli state. Unfortunately, the population of the are was a mixture of Jewish and Palestinian people, and the Palestinians were driven out. The new state of Israel was then forced to defend itself against the Palestinians and their Arab brethren as the Arabs did not accept the UN's declaration of an Israeli state in the middle of their homelands. Instead of taking in and aiding the Palestinians, the surrounding Arab countries attacked Israel and ultimately were defeated as Israel, with the help of the US, developed into a national security state with one of the world's fiercest militaries. Since the Palestinians have no hope of ever defeating the Israelis militarily, they use terrorism in hopes of achieving an independent state. These naturally abhorrent actions are met with overkill by the Israelis who use their military to inflict its own terrorism. Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians will accept an independent state for the other. But it does seem that the Israelis, operating from a position of strength, are intent on achieving their security by eliminating the Palestinians through isolation, blockade, destruction of its infrastructure, etc.

By: larry d.

larry d. — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:18:21 +0000

Good one, Reverend. Even mary ought to get a chuckle off that.

By: The Reverend

The Reverend — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:11:00 +0000

Anyone want to comment on the lands confiscated by Israel by force? Isn't there a U.N. resolution demanding that Israel return to it's pre-1967 borders?

Or…are U.N. resolutions, like pre-emptive war intelligence, simply to be cherry-picked?

By: larry d.

larry d. — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:04:43 +0000

They are still in existence which I'd call safer than not being in existence.

By: frank

frank — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:58:42 +0000

larry d. and averagejoe5,
You guys missed my point. No nation has marshalled its resources for defense better than Israel. Yet it hasn't made them safer.

By: averagejoe5

averagejoe5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:49 +0000

Frank, All they want is to be left alone. They are a peaceful people unless they are bothered. Don't think they can't cause great harm on any of their enemies. Remember the 6 day war in 1967. They are not to be played with. Also they have nukes and aren't afraid to strike first if provoked.

By: larry d.

larry d. — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:31:47 +0000

Overwhelming military superiority to who, frank? All the Arab nations combined? The fact that Israel hasn't bee overrun in the last 60 years is a great credit to their methods.

By: The Reverend

The Reverend — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:16:14 +0000

Exactly.

By: frank

frank — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:41:26 +0000

Those who think that we can militarily win the "war on terror" would do well to examine the efficacy of Israel's methods. Despite their overwhelming military superiority, despite having the world's most daring intelligence service, despite being on a war footing for 60 years, and despite $billions in aid and military equipment, the Israelis are no safer, and no closer to peace than they ever were.