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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at your sources. Exxon. Glenn Beck.

It isn&#039;t the technologies. It&#039;s the amount of oil under the ground. Geologists have new technology too....they say there isn&#039;t very much oil in North America. Not even close to making a difference.

One more thing...

Oil is a monopolistic commodity. Prices are fixed by futures traders. There is no competition....none. Normal supply and demand expectations do not apply to a monopolistic commodity. That&#039;s why we witnessed prices going up WHILE demand was going down. 

Two reasons why oil prices have come down recently. Profit taking by traders anticipating they had driven the prices too high and the realization sinking in that Democrats are going to control Washington.

I&#039;ve seen this same movie in the late 70&#039;s early 80&#039;s. The only way out of the situation is conservation and alternate sources of energy. I have no problem with oil companies drilling offshore and even in ANWR....but it won&#039;t make a dimes worth of difference.

Appreciate the time you took to voice your well-stated opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at your sources. Exxon. Glenn Beck.</p>
<p>It isn&#039;t the technologies. It&#039;s the amount of oil under the ground. Geologists have new technology too&#8230;.they say there isn&#039;t very much oil in North America. Not even close to making a difference.</p>
<p>One more thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Oil is a monopolistic commodity. Prices are fixed by futures traders. There is no competition&#8230;.none. Normal supply and demand expectations do not apply to a monopolistic commodity. That&#039;s why we witnessed prices going up WHILE demand was going down. </p>
<p>Two reasons why oil prices have come down recently. Profit taking by traders anticipating they had driven the prices too high and the realization sinking in that Democrats are going to control Washington.</p>
<p>I&#039;ve seen this same movie in the late 70&#039;s early 80&#039;s. The only way out of the situation is conservation and alternate sources of energy. I have no problem with oil companies drilling offshore and even in ANWR&#8230;.but it won&#039;t make a dimes worth of difference.</p>
<p>Appreciate the time you took to voice your well-stated opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: nick21</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev - Apparently that was before Bush decided to lift the ban.  Maybe Bush didn&#039;t understand the question or understood that the threat of drilling would cause a decline in prices. Maybe he&#039;s part of the left wing conspiracy, who knows. He has made some bone head decisions.  When he did lift the ban gas dropped almost 60 cents immediately not 3 cents.  The ban being lifted and the fact we aren&#039;t using as much has caused it to plummet. Here is a question: do our politicians understand supply, demand and prices?
 
The head of Exxon said it on an interview with Glen Beck and said 18 mos to 2 years tops and we would start seeing oil from off shore. Apparently they have rigs ready and idol off shore. As long as they didn&#039;t have to wade through all of the lawsuits made by the environmentalists.  They could also see oil from ANWR in 3 years or less. This is through new drilling technologies. This is what I&#039;ve heard and seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev &#8211; Apparently that was before Bush decided to lift the ban.  Maybe Bush didn&#039;t understand the question or understood that the threat of drilling would cause a decline in prices. Maybe he&#039;s part of the left wing conspiracy, who knows. He has made some bone head decisions.  When he did lift the ban gas dropped almost 60 cents immediately not 3 cents.  The ban being lifted and the fact we aren&#039;t using as much has caused it to plummet. Here is a question: do our politicians understand supply, demand and prices?</p>
<p>The head of Exxon said it on an interview with Glen Beck and said 18 mos to 2 years tops and we would start seeing oil from off shore. Apparently they have rigs ready and idol off shore. As long as they didn&#039;t have to wade through all of the lawsuits made by the environmentalists.  They could also see oil from ANWR in 3 years or less. This is through new drilling technologies. This is what I&#039;ve heard and seen.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The slogan of drill, baby, drill....is the poster child for winguttery.

George W. Bush&#039;s own Energy people, not 30 years ago, just recently, concluded it would be 10-15 years until oil from drilling starting now would reach the market. The same George W. Bush Energy people concluded that after that 10-15 years, when the oil reached the market, it would have a 3 cent reduction impact in a gallon of gas.

George W. Bush&#039;s people came up with those conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The slogan of drill, baby, drill&#8230;.is the poster child for winguttery.</p>
<p>George W. Bush&#039;s own Energy people, not 30 years ago, just recently, concluded it would be 10-15 years until oil from drilling starting now would reach the market. The same George W. Bush Energy people concluded that after that 10-15 years, when the oil reached the market, it would have a 3 cent reduction impact in a gallon of gas.</p>
<p>George W. Bush&#039;s people came up with those conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you 100%. Obama has been leading the polls all along and there is no doubt he will win the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you 100%. Obama has been leading the polls all along and there is no doubt he will win the election.</p>
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		<title>By: nick21</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will give ya the baby killing mill bombings, now that I think of it.</description>
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		<title>By: nick21</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev - the far right is prone to violence? I haven&#039;t seen much of that reported in the news.  However I have seen many members of PETA throwing paint on people, protests for gay rights that get out of hand with them messing up private property. Abortion mills are murderous in themselves. Throw in some Washington govt building bombings by one of Barracks neighbors and friends. And the left wingers outside of the Primary Conventions wanting to throw Feces, Pee and Bleach on anyone. Sounds like another story of left wing propaganda. We call that projecting in the psychology field. hhhhmmmmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev &#8211; the far right is prone to violence? I haven&#039;t seen much of that reported in the news.  However I have seen many members of PETA throwing paint on people, protests for gay rights that get out of hand with them messing up private property. Abortion mills are murderous in themselves. Throw in some Washington govt building bombings by one of Barracks neighbors and friends. And the left wingers outside of the Primary Conventions wanting to throw Feces, Pee and Bleach on anyone. Sounds like another story of left wing propaganda. We call that projecting in the psychology field. hhhhmmmmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: nick21</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev - Hate to say it but Bush showed them how to lower oil prices. Threaten to drill! After he lifted the ban, oil has slowly declined. Miraculously the Nigerians stopped trying to bomb their own pipelines. Gas prices have dropped more than 3 cents in my neighborhood. In fact they dropped about $1.90. The Dems are also wrong about 10 years until we get oil if we start drilling.  The oil company heads say 18 months to energy independence, tops. If the government and the environmentalists will work with them to achieve the goal. But the Dems are controlled by to many energy lobbiests to want to help us, such as T.Boone, Gore and the UN.

10 years was 70&#039;s technology and the Dems use that reference as a tool to keep their sheep feeling hopeless and under control, while Nancy Pelosi gets mega-rich from a $150K IPO with T Boone Pickens co., Cleane Energy Corp.

Stop spouting this garbage they are programming into your mind and look at the truth Rev. I agree with a lot of what you say, come to the &quot;Right&quot; side. We&#039;ll welcome you with open arms.

As far as this economy, to not blame much of this fiasco on Clinton would be wrong. Just like Clinton was the recipient of the gift of the Reagan / Bush years. &quot;W&quot; received the house of cards Bill left. I am not saying it was all Clinton&#039;s fault, but many of his policies and inactions have led us to where we are today.

Also I heard a report today that the polls the Obama people are releasing are very skewed. For him to win the way they are talking, 90% of Dem registrants will have to vote. Do you think that will happen? In actuallity Obama is at about a 30% to 70% disadavantage.  And the more things like Ayers and AKORN and his ridiculous economic plan that keeps coming out in the press the more the Indy&#039;s are moving to McCain. The indy&#039;s aren&#039;t stupid, they just aren&#039;t as committed  as others. Their attitude is voting for the lesser of 2 evils, not for their favorite candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev &#8211; Hate to say it but Bush showed them how to lower oil prices. Threaten to drill! After he lifted the ban, oil has slowly declined. Miraculously the Nigerians stopped trying to bomb their own pipelines. Gas prices have dropped more than 3 cents in my neighborhood. In fact they dropped about $1.90. The Dems are also wrong about 10 years until we get oil if we start drilling.  The oil company heads say 18 months to energy independence, tops. If the government and the environmentalists will work with them to achieve the goal. But the Dems are controlled by to many energy lobbiests to want to help us, such as T.Boone, Gore and the UN.</p>
<p>10 years was 70&#039;s technology and the Dems use that reference as a tool to keep their sheep feeling hopeless and under control, while Nancy Pelosi gets mega-rich from a $150K IPO with T Boone Pickens co., Cleane Energy Corp.</p>
<p>Stop spouting this garbage they are programming into your mind and look at the truth Rev. I agree with a lot of what you say, come to the &#034;Right&#034; side. We&#039;ll welcome you with open arms.</p>
<p>As far as this economy, to not blame much of this fiasco on Clinton would be wrong. Just like Clinton was the recipient of the gift of the Reagan / Bush years. &#034;W&#034; received the house of cards Bill left. I am not saying it was all Clinton&#039;s fault, but many of his policies and inactions have led us to where we are today.</p>
<p>Also I heard a report today that the polls the Obama people are releasing are very skewed. For him to win the way they are talking, 90% of Dem registrants will have to vote. Do you think that will happen? In actuallity Obama is at about a 30% to 70% disadavantage.  And the more things like Ayers and AKORN and his ridiculous economic plan that keeps coming out in the press the more the Indy&#039;s are moving to McCain. The indy&#039;s aren&#039;t stupid, they just aren&#039;t as committed  as others. Their attitude is voting for the lesser of 2 evils, not for their favorite candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One such example would be the recent nut who opened up on a Unitarian Church group. Some have said, from bio info, that the guy was a big reader and believer in O&#039;Reilly and the fellows. Unitarians are tolerant to gays. 2+2= go kill some of them.

Since Reagan, the extreme right in America has had a reputation for violence. I admit that it&#039;s a tiny minority, but it&#039;s been there.

Abortion clinic bombings, abortion doctor killings, gay bashing violence, I even think McVeigh could be considered far to the right. There are more examples. In my experience I&#039;ve witnessed frustrated ultra-conservatives lash out in a physical way.

The entire belief system of far rightists is that might equals right, if done for a &quot;good&quot; cause. 

Couple that with the close-to-frenzy time surrounding Bill Clinton&#039;s presidency....and I think the potential for violence with an Obama presidency, accompanied by a Democratically controlled Congress, will be high.

I don&#039;t want it to happen. I detest violence, I don&#039;t care who&#039;s creating it.

I also believe, and this is the larger point, that false narratives and race and anger-baiting by the Limbaugh&#039;s and the Hannity&#039;s out there.....have contributed to this perfect storm condition.

Glad to be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One such example would be the recent nut who opened up on a Unitarian Church group. Some have said, from bio info, that the guy was a big reader and believer in O&#039;Reilly and the fellows. Unitarians are tolerant to gays. 2+2= go kill some of them.</p>
<p>Since Reagan, the extreme right in America has had a reputation for violence. I admit that it&#039;s a tiny minority, but it&#039;s been there.</p>
<p>Abortion clinic bombings, abortion doctor killings, gay bashing violence, I even think McVeigh could be considered far to the right. There are more examples. In my experience I&#039;ve witnessed frustrated ultra-conservatives lash out in a physical way.</p>
<p>The entire belief system of far rightists is that might equals right, if done for a &#034;good&#034; cause. </p>
<p>Couple that with the close-to-frenzy time surrounding Bill Clinton&#039;s presidency&#8230;.and I think the potential for violence with an Obama presidency, accompanied by a Democratically controlled Congress, will be high.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t want it to happen. I detest violence, I don&#039;t care who&#039;s creating it.</p>
<p>I also believe, and this is the larger point, that false narratives and race and anger-baiting by the Limbaugh&#039;s and the Hannity&#039;s out there&#8230;..have contributed to this perfect storm condition.</p>
<p>Glad to be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well this is a post i will bookmark just in case.

but &quot;actions of violence will follow&quot; is over the top.  do you care to elaborate on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well this is a post i will bookmark just in case.</p>
<p>but &#034;actions of violence will follow&#034; is over the top.  do you care to elaborate on this?</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...you have a choice. 

Obama recognizes the serious nature of the economic problem and is willing to consider cuts as well as new spending. You fail to acknowledge this about him. That&#039;s fine.

But the candidate you will vote for...McCain....will wreck the lame-ass health care system we do have, putting another 20 million in the uninsured pile while at the same time taxing health benefits...if you have them now. In addition, McCain&#039;s focus on the economic problem is the same as the guys who led us the last 8 years. More tax cuts....especially for the richest.

I mean, are you kidding me? You&#039;ve been defending the leadership of Bush-Cheney for a long time.....your only complaint is that they spent too much. The truth is....they have been maniacs in the area of tax cutting. 

The very freaking reason why unfettered business is coming to the bailout party is because they were unfettered and f*cked everything up. It&#039;s clear what we get from a marketplace set free of government interference. That&#039;s why government must have control over certain vital industries....the free marketers can&#039;t be trusted.

Once again....I don&#039;t lie.

I didn&#039;t say Rove created the problem.....I said Rovian people are taking advantage of the situation....and, as usual, their timing is either coincidence, or strategically planned. You would opt for coincidence.....you always do. Takes a lot of faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;you have a choice. </p>
<p>Obama recognizes the serious nature of the economic problem and is willing to consider cuts as well as new spending. You fail to acknowledge this about him. That&#039;s fine.</p>
<p>But the candidate you will vote for&#8230;McCain&#8230;.will wreck the lame-ass health care system we do have, putting another 20 million in the uninsured pile while at the same time taxing health benefits&#8230;if you have them now. In addition, McCain&#039;s focus on the economic problem is the same as the guys who led us the last 8 years. More tax cuts&#8230;.especially for the richest.</p>
<p>I mean, are you kidding me? You&#039;ve been defending the leadership of Bush-Cheney for a long time&#8230;..your only complaint is that they spent too much. The truth is&#8230;.they have been maniacs in the area of tax cutting. </p>
<p>The very freaking reason why unfettered business is coming to the bailout party is because they were unfettered and f*cked everything up. It&#039;s clear what we get from a marketplace set free of government interference. That&#039;s why government must have control over certain vital industries&#8230;.the free marketers can&#039;t be trusted.</p>
<p>Once again&#8230;.I don&#039;t lie.</p>
<p>I didn&#039;t say Rove created the problem&#8230;..I said Rovian people are taking advantage of the situation&#8230;.and, as usual, their timing is either coincidence, or strategically planned. You would opt for coincidence&#8230;..you always do. Takes a lot of faith.</p>
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