No need to trot out the bluster. The White House purposely created an " imminent threat" of Iraq. That was the lie. You will never agree that THAT was a lie….but it was.

You are still trying to blame Bush for Congress' pre-war Iraq vote. What a pantload that is. For the MILLIONTH TIME, here are the facts – Democrats and Republicans BOTH thought Iraq had WMD, because that's what the CIA TOLD THEM. That's also what British, Russian, and French intelligence told them. That's also what the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION told them. That's what Saddam's own generals told them. The CIA TOLD BUSH what the intel showed, not vice versa. Bush didn't create the pre-war NIE, the CIA did. Saddam violated 14 UN RESOLUTIONS, most of them regarding those WMD. Saddam was shooting at our planes in the no-fly zone. Saddam was paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. BILL CLINTON MADE OUR IRAQ POLICY ONE OF REGIME CHANGE WITH THE IRAQ LIBERATION ACT IN 1998. Saddam interfered with the UN weapons inspectors the entire time they were in Iraq. Saddam corrupted the Oil For Food program. Saddam had a nuclear weapons program previously, and the British STILL stick to the truth of those 16 words. Joe Wilson LIED.

If Bush told people Saddam had WMD (and he did), that's because that's what our intelligence agencies TOLD HIM, and he believed them.

Not to mention the fact that members of Congress are fully grown human beings, capable of making their own decisions, and if they don't have the strength of their own convictions, they shouldn't be in positions of authority in the first place. While there were Congressional members who didn't think the Iraq war was the wisest course, I doubt there were ANY who trusted Saddam on the WMD issue.

Of course, now, when it's politically convenient, they can pretend otherwise, and do.

We have a Senate Committee finding demonstrating just that.

frank is correct…..Democrats think they are playing it safe. Obama may even be thinking he is playing it safe. It is faulty thinking.

When the Protect America Act nonsense was passed by all these weak sisters in August, 2006…the same dynamic was at work. Stupid Democrats thought if something "happened" before they got back to work….they would be blamed.

Helles Belles…..Democrats get blamed, no matter what the hell happens.

But at least I don't say crazy things like Al Qaeda is the only enemy we have. You should read the list of terrorist organizations sometime, not to mention the existence of states like Iran (and Saddam's Iraq, formerly).

Since Al Qaeda is an international organization present in a minimum of 60 countries worldwide (probably way more), they can't be snuffed out so easily.

Besides, your original post sounded to me like you were being criticial of the fact that we were in Afghanistan at all, that's why I asked you questions about it.

Bush hasn't committed any impeachable offenses regarding Iraq. Can you imagine Congress attempting to impeach Bush for Iraq, a war that Congress voted FOR ? That would be the mother of all hypocrisies. I will only accept that if Congress impeaches itself first and removes itself from office.

For all their talk, the dems in Congress know Bush is right on many issues and they appreciate the fact that there haven't been any attacks here since shortly after 9/11. What they say publicly is just meant to keep dupes voting dem, because they don't have anything else to offer.

al-Qaeda is the only "enemy" America officially has.

al-Qaeda attacked us on 9-11.

The purpose…..and I don't give a sh*t what neoconservative minded folks say about this…I'm still factually correct…..the purpose of sending our military to Afghanistan was to get the enemy…al-Qaeda. The Taliban willingly gave safe haven to America's enemy and therefore, had to be driven from power.

BUT

We didn't finish getting the enemy. We fell far, far short of seriously killing all the bastards who planned and carried out 9-11. Americans believed W. would snuff out al-Qaeda….root and branch. Hell, I even believed it for about 90 days.

By not finishing off the enemy….and don't tell me we couldn't have done it……W. betrayed America and all Americans. By conducting an international criminal act against Iraq instead of finishing al-Qaeda off….W. committed an impeachable offense and once again, betrayed, in a fraudulent manner, the American people.

Never in history have we witnessed, and yet done nothing about, such presidential abuse of power.

Or are we continuing to pretend that concern somehow only applies to Iraq ?

Or is it the fact that there is still a Taliban, even though they no longer control Afghanistan ?

I have to second larry here. I'm not sure what you are driving at.

Now you tell us Iraq's the model–more troops, clamp down, unilaterally overwhelm, etc., etc.

It gets confusing but I'm catching up.