No one can pull them anymore.

Maybe you're right. Let's do it your way. Let's expose all our intelligence programs to the world, as the NY Times and liberals do. Let's hamstring the NSA so they can't eavesdrop on phone calls coming from Al Qaeda into this country. Let's drag all the telcoms into court so they will rue the day they ever cooperated with the government in the fight against terrorism, so they will never do it again. Let's grant Al Qaeda the full rights of american citizenship. Let's release the Gitmo prisoners. Let's treat KSM will all the respect in the world to show him what nice people we are. Let's throw Bush into jail because he believed the intel about Saddam that was coming from the CIA, the previous administration, Russia, England, and France. Let's pull the hell out of Iraq right now and open the door for Iran to step in and take over.

Let's do ALL that, but, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't ever tell me that you are doing it for the rule of law or that you are being patriotic, because you aren't. Doing all those things makes you virtually indistinguishable from the enemy for all practical purposes.

You really don't know who's pulling your strings, do you puppet Rev ?

So sad.

You guys ARE lawless.

You know, when I point out the problem that conservatives and Republicans have been experiencing in this area of lawlessness….I don't expect all you guys to jump into the lawless pool with them.

But there it is.

You fellows are willing to throw out the very foundation of America for the faux-feeling of security or the bloodthirsty feeling of vengeance.

It sure ain't pretty.

And the irony of it all….you guys think you're being patriotic.

Bizarro-world.

Bush/Cheney did not out covert CIA agent Valerie Plame and then obstruct the federal investigation. Bob Novak outed her based on a leak from Richard Armitage. Even you should be able to figure this one out Rev. NOBODY WAS CHARGED WITH OUTING PLAME after a two year investigation.

Bush DID commute Libby's sentence. I would have too had I been the president. No, let me amend that. I would have pardoned Libby completely. The Plame investigation was a witchhunt from the start, based upon nothing.

The Senate Committee shut out Republicans from it's latest 9/11 report, which was a partisan piece of bullsh*t that contradicted the Dems own prior words and opinions, and even contradicted the pre-war NIE.

Go find someone else to cry for Khalid Shaikh Mohammed being waterboarded. You'll be waiting until the end of time for me to do it. If I had been the president following 9/11, I would have done whatever it took to find out what KSM knew. I would have put american lives above KSM's rights in a heartbeat. Less than a hearbeat.

Eavesdropping on phone calls coming from suspected Al Qaeda members into the USA following 9/11 not only isn't a crime, it is the duty of the POTUS, who is sworn to protect america.

The Supreme Court Boumediene ruling was a joke that overturned all existing legal precedent.

You don't have a case, at least not from that list.

Tell me Bush/Cheney did not out covert CIA agent Valerie Plame and then obstruct the federal investigation into it?

Tell me that Bush/Cheney did not then commute the sentence of the only person convicted in the caper that both Bush and Cheney orchestrated.

Show me where the Senate Committee DIDN'T conclude that Bush/Cheney propagandized and lied to Congress and the American people in order to attack a non-threatening country.

Tell me again how torture is, somehow, now okay…..and that habeas corpus isn't.

Prove to me that spying on Americans isn't a violation of the the 4th amendment and that FISA, in 2001, wasn't the exclusive means of spying, legally, on Americans.

Explain to me once more how the Supreme Court DIDN'T slap Bush/Cheney down over declaring American citizens "enemy combatants".

Neo-conservatives believe that all the Bush/Cheney crimes I just mentioned are not really crimes at all, but instead, brave, bold and strong examples of how to keep the nation safe.

I rest my case.

Bush is a fascist nazi criminal child abuser who kicks little dogs and eats rats !!! Why ? Because the Rev says so, that's why, and if you dare question the Rev's powerful factless logic, then you are a brokeback knee padding faith-based 28 percenter wingnut, or something to that effect.

Btw posters, are ANY of you "Bush enthusiasts" ?