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Endorsing The Extreme

by The Reverend on February 29, 2008

in 2008 election,Barack Obama,intolerance,John McCain,neo-conservatives,pre-emption,religion

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UPDATE: Watch this video

SAN ANTONIO — Sen. John McCain picked up the support of Texas pastor John Hagee, an evangelical Christian who has made support for the state of Israel a centerpiece of his ministry.

Hagee endorsed McCain today, saying he did so because McCain is a pro-life, pro-Israel politician who has pledged to secure the country's borders. Link

Endorsements, I think, have little to no impact on political contests. Just my opinion. What usually happens, as in Tuesday night's debate, is that endorsements are used by Knee Padders, say, like Tim Russert, in an attempt to yoke a candidate to certain extremist or nefarious baggage that the endorser carries around with them.

In the case from the other night, Russert tried his best to pin the extremism of Louis Farrakhan concerning the Jewish faith, to the pinless lapel of Barack Obama. All because Farrakhan spoke well of the Illinois Senator. Russert actually humiliated himself with this line of questioning. Obama made it clear, that he was, in no way, yoked to the extremist thinking of Farrakhan. He denounced AND rejected.

Now we have John Hagee endorsing John McCain. Hagee, as the WashingtonPost.com piece states, has made American support for Israel, "a centerpiece of his ministry." Yet Hagee is an Evangelical Christian pastor.

Why would an Evangelical Christian leader, like Hagee, center his "ministry" on support of a religious people who do not believe in nor accept Jesus of Nazareth as Lord and Saviour? What's the real reason for Hagee's support for Israel?

The man who is primarily responsible for Christian theology, the Apostle Paul, wrote this passage some 20 centuries ago…

As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. Link

Paul, the Apostle, was a very conflicted person. Inspired, or not, this Biblical writer had a kind of schitzophrenic belief regarding the people of Israel. They are "enemies" of Christianity's good news but their "election" is "irrevocable." Evangelicals, trying to make sense of these schitzoid accounts, long ago came up with an interpretive scheme called "dispensationalism" to help iron out the contradictory wrinkles. In short, God deals with man differently during different eras of earth's history. Requirements are different. Worship is different. Responsibility for misdeeds is different, etc. The Biblical God that "changes not", in dispensationalist thought, is always changing.

John Hagee is a full fledged believer in dispensationalist thought.

Paul's schitzophenic passages, coupled with the most bizarre, science-fiction-like interpretation of the apocalyptic books of Daniel and Revelation, bring us full circle back to John Hagee and the "centerpiece" of his influential work: American support for Israel, God's elect.

Hagee supports John McCain because McCain is a neo-conservative. Neo-conservatives can be perfectly reasonable about many difficult issues facing the U.S., however, when it comes to the middle east and Israel, the reasoning leaves the tracks and goes all crazy-like. Hagee supports McCain because McCain wants to stay in Iraq with permanent military bases. Hagee supports McCain because McCain speaks threateningly about Israel's enemies, Iran and Syria. Hagee supports McCain because McCain wants to carry on the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive wars of aggression against Israel's enemies. Hagee regards all this, in his messed up head, as, somehow, fulfilling Biblical prophecy in preparation for the Secret Rapture and the Second Coming of Jesus. The last dispensation.

Evangelicals in America believe Israel will be restored to it's Old Testamental stature under King David, just before Jesus returns. The literal Jerusalem Temple, last destroyed in 70 A.D., of which only a portion remains today known as the Wailing Wall, will be completely rebuilt and "cleansed" from all the centuries of unclean defilement by non-Jews. In this cartoonish depiction of the "end times", after Israel is restored, the unclean nations (Arabs), will gather together and prepare for the great battle of Armaggedon against God's "elect"…..but Jesus will intervene with his appearance in the clouds where "every eye will see him".

Jesus, known in the four Gospels for his love, forgiveness and mercy, will bring flames of eternal fire down upon the enemies of the "elect", destroying them once and for all. Other than that God initiated Holocaust, everyone else lives happily ever after.

John Hagee, in his endorsement of John McCain, is hoping he and his followers can, you know, help God out a little. Sort of grease the divine skids by endorsing a man for president who wants to stay in Iraq, in support of Israel, forever. Preparing the way for his Lord to return by setting the table for the Jerusalem Temple to be restored. Something that can only be accomplished, in Hagee's head, if pre-emptive wars of aggression against Israel's enemies are spread throughout the entire middle east. That's exactly what John McCain has said he would do. Thus, the endorsement.

To say that this way of thinking is what comic books are made of is to state the obvious. Just because many American Evangelicals believe this comic book story, doesn't make it true in the least. But just because John Hagee is an Evangelical Christian pastor endorsing John McCain, doesn't mean he is not a dangerous, intolerant, warmongering moron with a desire and a fondness for never ending and costly bloodshed over in the lands of the Bible.

Barack Obama does not agree with Louis Farrakhan's extremism and has said so. Obama stands on no common ground with Farrakhan. John McCain, on the other hand, with his extreme neo-conservative foreign policy beliefs, has something in common with the extremist views of John Hagee.

Hagee's endorsement of McCain, though having little overall impact on the election, still yokes a religious extremist to a pre-emptive war extremist.

  • viw

    However–had Hillary been endorsed by the KKK, or other such extremist group, and she 'refused' to 'renounce' (lame) or reject that endorsement, saying that, " I can't help it if somebody likes me," –then do you think America would say collectivly, "OH, okay, you're right–go ahead and don't reject that endorsement by the KKK, Hillary—we forgive you for taking that support of a man or a group of millions of jew/negro haters"?

    Yahhhh—right! Get real.

  • larry d.

    So the endorsements mean nothing for the Dems (unless it's a member of the Kennedy family) but mean a lot for the Reps?

  • banned

    However–had Hillary been endorsed by the KKK, or other such extremist group, and she 'refused' to 'renounce' (lame) or reject that endorsement, saying that, " I can't help it if somebody likes me," –then do you think America would say collectivly, "OH, okay, you're right–go ahead and don't reject that endorsement by the KKK, Hillary—we forgive you for taking that support of a man or a group of millions of jew/negro haters"?

    Yahhhh—right! Get real.

  • The Reverend

    Yep, that would be correct.

    Particularly so since Obama denounced AND rejected the bigot Farrakhan's endorsement and McCain was "honored" and "pleased" with the bigot Hagee's endorsement.

    Yep.

  • larry d.

    I need a review on how supporting the only democracy in that region is bigoted, or is bigot just another one of those silly words like p*ssy, b*ner and crimin*l that you like to throw around when you can't think of a rational argument?

  • da truth

    Larry, did you read the post? Supporting the only democracy in the region is only a small part of what's going on here; if Hitler supported John Sidney McCain and that democracy would it be ok for McCain to accept his endorsement? I'm sure there are certain things you and Farrakhan would agree on….I'm also sure you wouldn't accept his endorsement. In fact, you would probably make a point to come out and say so.

  • Da King

    Yes, Obama DENOUNCED and REJECTED Farrakhan's remarks, but he didn't DISAVOW, REVILE, or SPIT UPON them. Aha !!!

    Rev, are you the only person in america who doesn't realize that Cleveland debate was a smear job against HILLARY ???

  • Da King

    And I guess I'll post McCain's reply to the Hagee issue here too, since the Rev loves this non-story so much that he has started multiple threads about it.

    "Yesterday, Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee's views, which I obviously do not. I am hopeful that Catholics, Protestants and all people of faith who share my vision for the future of America will respond to our message of defending innocent life, traditional marriage, and compassion for the most vulnerable in our society." – John McCain

  • The Reverend

    larry: Hagee does not support Israel for any other reason than his childish "understanding" of eschatological events allegedly prophesied in the Bible.

    Hagee has no interest in Israel other than how Israel plays a part in his own mentally-ill fantasia surrounding the "end of times".

    Just as WMD was mouthed as an excuse for you-know-what…..so too, Hagee may mouth Israeli independence as holding some importance to him. But what he's really interested in is the return of Jesus for the rapture event. In Hagee's warped and disturbed "thinking", Israel must be completely restored before that can happen, Temple and all.

  • The Reverend

    King: Yes, McCain distanced himself a bit by saying he didn't agree with all of Hagee's views.

    Would it have been okay for Obama to have said the same about Farrakhan?

    Truth is McCain SOUGHT Hagee's blessings, was PLEASED and HONORED when he received his endorsement.

    Those same words coming from Obama's mouth over Farrakhan's endorsement would have meant the END for the Obama candidacy.

    Double standard still intact.

    And it's a double….double standard. Republican/Democrat/extremist endorsement double standard.
    Christian/Muslim/extremist double standard.

    What I didn't state in my post was the why. Without the evangelical wingnut vote, at least a sizable portion, McCain and the GOP don't have much of a prayer. Dobson, a different Christian extremist, said he would never vote for McCain.

  • larry d.

    Maybe we should start a new category of non-endorsements. McCain's up by one with Dobson. If we could get Sharpton or someone to disavow Obama, we'd have a tie.

  • banned again

    yes Rev–Obama did renounce and reject—ONLY after being pushed into a corner on it—that speaks volumes to me.

  • banned

    Another comment of mine awaiting Da King's moderation………………………………………………

    Admin says: This is the Blog of Mass Destruction. The Reverend and Da King are two different people.

  • pdt1420

    I'm sorry… I'm just having trouble making the connection. I understand Hagee likes Israel (End times, Jesus was a Jew, whatever) but how does this make him a bigot? Most of America views Israel as a friend. They're the only middle east country that doesn't have a problem with us.

    So the only thing I want answered is… how does that make him a bigot?

  • Rebecca Ramnytz

    Rev–I agree there is enough hypocrisy to serve up a dish to all at the table…

    However, herein lies the difference, TO ME–Hagee doesn't like Catholics—Hagee hasn't proclaimed that Catholics should be wiped off the face of the planet by human intervention (such as a war against Catholics)—you may argue, neither has Farrakhan, and yet Farrakhan implies that Ahmadenijad is probably right—"Let's kill all the Jews! Wipe them off the face of the planet! Take back Israel for our selves–let the rest go float upside down in the ocean! Judaism is a "gutter religion". The world doesn't need Jews!—

    This attitude is scary to people like me—although I am a completely non-religious, secular world citizen, who eschews religion in all its forms, the fact that just fifty years ago the world pretty much turned its collective back on the Jewish people absolutely instills in me a healthy, robust mistrust of those who speak aloud such sentiments as; Judaism is a "gutter religion" and until the day Hagee starts advocating the destruction of the Vatican (Catholic equivalent of Israel) then, I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt—but watch him VERY carefully at all times —put yourself into the shoes of those who have been brutally murdered by the millions and just imagine their sense of Historical Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, such as Jews, Native Americans, Armenians, Tutsis and Hutus, Darfurians, women , as a whole half of humankind, and so on.

    OH P.S. Rev–lack of religion does not mean lack of morality, compassion, and intelligence or faith, for that matter.

  • The Reverend

    Obama has had to deal with the Farrakhan smear for years. He has never waffled about his denouncing the Muslim leader's views in their totality when it comes to the Jewish issue.

    Yes, the Jews have suffered mightily in the past.

    My point remains. McCain is honored and pleased to receive the endorsement of an anti-Catholic, anti-Muslim, anti-non-believer evangelical extremist. That's the bigot part.

    Hagee's interest in Israel has nothing to do with Israel being America's ally in the middle east. His interest is in getting America to militarily prepare the region for the restoration of the Jewish Temple religion, followed by the Second Coming when God allegedly will exterminate all non-believers, including Jews, in the eternal Holocaust fires of hell.

    McCain was pleased to get this endorsement.

    Obama had to do everything but "pinky swear" that he rejected Farrakhan and his anti-Israel nonsense.

    Double standard. Both extremists are hate-mongers and religionists who divide us. Democrats must reject openly these extremists. Republicans can be honored and pleased to get their endorsement.

    Farrakhan calls Judaism a gutter religion. Hagee calls the Catholic sect of Christianity the great whore that God will reject and destroy.

    Enough said.

  • Rebecca Ramnytz

    Rev–We finally agree on something.

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